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  1. why do you have 2 different totals listed for chicken breast?
    the last 6oz you say has 32g protein/210cals;
    the top (2x) 6oz you say it is 96g protein/480cals
    personally I think both are off, if it's boneless skinless fresh should be same, and no way 12oz chick breast has 96g protein..

    also: 22g of fat from nuts in the morning, this being >1/3 your daily allotment?
    huh..might advise changing that


  2. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    why do you have 2 different totals listed for chicken breast?
    the last 6oz you say has 32g protein/210cals;
    the top (2x) 6oz you say it is 96g protein/480cals
    personally I think both are off, if it's boneless skinless fresh should be same, and no way 12oz chick breast has 96g protein..

    also: 22g of fat from nuts in the morning, this being >1/3 your daily allotment?
    huh..might advise changing that
    That's when I take my anabolics which are good with fat. I could take them again in meal 4.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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  3. I guess the chicken was estimated differently from the 2 sources...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  4. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I guess the chicken was estimated differently from the 2 sources...
    dint we just talk about consistency in some other thread a minute ago??
    USE ONE SOURCE!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    dint we just talk about consistency in some other thread a minute ago??
    USE ONE SOURCE!
    I thought I was I didn't notice the difference.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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  6. Fixed ....
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  7. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    That's when I take my anabolics which are good with fat. I could take them again in meal 4.
    if you are dead-set on using that type of fat load, then I would move it to later towards bed, like either meal 5, or 6
    still like a more balanced approach (and other fat sources as well), but in a regular-type dieting mode I prefer more fats at night/carbs earlier in day, and anabolics split over breakfast & supper -- with the odd amount of anabolics (or majority) taken in the evening..
    you do not need 20g+ of fats to be taken with anabolics..overkill
    but if you like that, drop some fish oil in there

  8. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    if you are dead-set on using that type of fat load, then I would move it to later towards bed, like either meal 5, or 6
    still like a more balanced approach (and other fat sources as well), but in a regular-type dieting mode I prefer more fats at night/carbs earlier in day, and anabolics split over breakfast & supper -- with the odd amount of anabolics (or majority) taken in the evening..
    you do not need 20g+ of fats to be taken with anabolics..overkill
    but if you like that, drop some fish oil in there
    Well they are nuts so they are easy to spread around more and come to think of it I would prefer them later in the day while I am relaxing at home. I used to use fish oil got away from it. I do eat a lot of fish though.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  9. Ok I guess I am getting bigger people stopped me on the street to comment on the fact, my perception is probably off. I weighed in at 199 which is actually down a biit from last week so I am more comfortable in recomp now.

    I have made the adjustments in diet based on Steve's input, really comfortable with where that has me right now. Only hardship right now is that it is very humid here. We don't so much get sun as hazey weather with some sun this has been weeks now since we have had a really clear day. It's very odd.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  10. Humidity will help you lose water weight it is gonna be alright. DMZ is a good product if a good source. Don't expect anything crazy though. Give it time. As far as your diet sounds like Snags has you taken care of.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  11. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Humidity will help you lose water weight it is gonna be alright. DMZ is a good product if a good source. Don't expect anything crazy though. Give it time. As far as your diet sounds like Snags has you taken care of.
    Some effects coming through I think been just 2 weeks.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Some effects coming through I think been just 2 weeks.
    2weeks is still early...
    OLYMPUS UK REP

  13. Couple brutal sessions but effects have been good. I really feel the muscle working and it's resulting in some pretty significant size increase. I was curious and got on the scale this mornng and I was 201. Like Steve says it's hard to fathom the increase sometimes bassed on you dietary intake. I am going to get some pics up mid week, I am going away next weekend so will be hard to be right on with the diet but plan on packing a lot with me.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  14. Good luck on the nutrition being away. That is when powders seem to come in very handy! Powders and a microwave for potatoes and you are money.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  15. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Good luck on the nutrition being away. That is when powders seem to come in very handy! Powders and a microwave for potatoes and you are money.
    Beef Jerky may play a part as well

    Wow, now that was a stellar workout!!! Great strength and stamina right through and everything I do seems to be bearing fruit.
    Lat Pulldowns Warmup , 2X10, 1 double drop X 10,10,10 then the same for all other exercises
    Wide smith bench
    L-Lateral Raise
    Close Grip bench
    Barbell curl
    Front squats
    Stiff legged deads
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  16. I feel like I've been hit by a truck.... it's great
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I feel like I've been hit by a truck.... it's great
    Like a mothertrucker
    OLYMPUS UK REP

  18. Nice work Doug!
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  19. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Nice work Doug!
    Thanks Chris...

    Well I have to admit there have been times where I have been a little pensive about going up in weight but I do seem to be seeing some recomp now so the reduction to 3000 cals seems to be working. I will likely further reduce mid next week to 2800 and then starting 12 weeks out around 2500, maybe a bit higher depending. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

    I am definitely showing some agression have to watch I don't get myself nto trouble. Doesn't take much to set me off now and the wrong person says the wrong thng at the wrong time .... I have t remember where the agression is coming from.

    That being said I am going to take it out at the gym can't wait till tomorrow Azz kickin time!!!
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  20. Was away since thursday so did not update this. I trained on Friday and today both were block buster sessions. I am fuggin strong and getting very fuggin big. I am getting a lot of what the fug is he on stares.... No fuggin wonder I look like a fuggin beast!!!!!

    I increased the 1-alpha dosage to 6 ed but dmz has played it's part I am sure. I damned agressive and the weight moves easier but the humidity makes the lungs labor more so I have to catch my breath and find myself breathing pretty heavy. It's really good to feel strong again though. I really have that nobody fug with me attitude going but have to watch that. Can't take myself too seriously leads to trouble

    Diet did not slip much at all on the weekend away, I was well prepared. I treated myself to some frozen yogurt on my b'day (a lot of it) but I am down to 2800 cals now so things should settle down fast. Being this anabolic the extra carbs may have done some good actually. I also was very active on the weekend so I know I burned some extra cals also.

    I was at an outdoor conert on my b'day ... saw Alice in Chains and BBKing
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  21. alice in chains, no shyte? damn I haven't heard them forever, dint even know they were still around
    some great songs they put out, was part of a unique era of music for sure

  22. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    alice in chains, no shyte? damn I haven't heard them forever, dint even know they were still around
    some great songs they put out, was part of a unique era of music for sure
    Yah I enjoyed them, I think they split up and got back together, they are legit artists no doubt about it.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  23. Oh yah at the concert I had young people coming up to me asking how old I was cuz I was so jacked as they said. One girl asked to seem my abs, I was happy to comply but I wasn't try to impress her to make a move or anything. I was flattered sure, and it's nice to be noticed but I am long past that sort of thing. I am a happily married man.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  24. Happy birthday.....see you've been enjoying yourself.....

    Alice in chains Rooster
    OLYMPUS UK REP

  25. Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    Happy birthday.....see you've been enjoying yourself.....

    Alice in chains Rooster
    Yah they played a song called Rooster then my son sang it a Kareoke later that night
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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