Dermacrine - lethary, flu like symptoms
- 06-01-2014, 04:19 PM
Dermacrine - lethary, flu like symptoms
Started dermacrine at 2, then 3 pumps in the AM and been feeling very tired, depressed and have concluded that it is the dermacrine (the only thing that has changed). I am 8 days in. I weigh 192, 46 yrs old with about 16% bodyfat. Is it too much for my body to convert? Maybe I should do two pumps before bed or 1 in the AM and 1-2 in the PM? How can I counteract this (as I am liking the pump and strength increase - feeling very anabolic). I just ended ARA and ABE and am continuing ABE. Dermacrine is my first non natty attempt. Thanks for your help.
- 06-01-2014, 05:13 PM
06-01-2014, 05:41 PM
06-01-2014, 05:47 PM
06-01-2014, 06:03 PM
06-01-2014, 06:21 PM
I personally believe your body was converting to much of the DHEA to estrogen that's why I was wondering what you were using for estrogen
06-01-2014, 08:03 PM
I will take a few days off and be sure that is it. If it is....i would still like to see if i can find dosing that would work for me.
06-01-2014, 09:37 PM
06-04-2014, 12:49 PM
06-04-2014, 11:08 PM
I am the guy that started the thread. I had to get a new user id. Anyhow, after 3 days off, I am feeling like myself. I am almost certain is was the Dermacrine.
I can't afford to feel that bad for about 1.5 weeks lol. So in about 1.5 weeks, I will re-start, but only with 1 pump for a few days, then 1 pump twice a day and see if I can get up to 1 pump 3 times a day.
I think the problem was with using 2, then 3, then 4 pumps at the same time. Does that make sense?
Are there others that have reported experiencing this? Were they able to find a sweet spot or did they have to cease use?
Am I just super sensitive (maybe cause I am 46) and need less than others may need?
Thanks for your input..
06-04-2014, 11:11 PM
Wow, very interesting. I just started mine about 3 days ago & have felt fine. I would definitely recommend starting slow this next time around. Please update us in a couple weeks! !
06-05-2014, 09:59 AM
06-05-2014, 10:11 AM
06-05-2014, 06:59 PM
just out of curiousity have you ever had a hormone panel blood test done? the body changes as we get older, at 46 it might be good to know where you stand.
06-05-2014, 08:45 PM
06-05-2014, 10:19 PM
what you would want is a 'full panel hormone test', at least you would have a better understanding of where you stand with levels of test/free test/estradiol/estrone/DHEA/cortisol/igf-1/shbg/progesterone/prolactin. this is important information you and your doctor should know as you approach 50, imo.
good luck, bobby!!!
06-05-2014, 10:22 PM
06-05-2014, 10:50 PM
06-05-2014, 11:50 PM
06-05-2014, 11:59 PM
06-06-2014, 05:21 PM
I remember seeing a link here on the forums a while back for cheaper hormone panel tests. I think it might be a sticky.
Not sure if it works for Canada though. Let me see if i can find it and report back.
06-06-2014, 05:32 PM
06-06-2014, 06:59 PM
06-07-2014, 04:52 PM
06-07-2014, 08:13 PM
06-16-2014, 07:21 PM
Ok, so after 1.5 weeks off and feeling much better, I started at 1 pump. After 5 days I seemed ok and was feeling positive effects, so I went to two pumps for one day - and bang started to feel the same symptoms. Gonna take at least a few days off and then return to 1 pump and see if I can hold at that.
Will 1 pump do anything?
Do you think I would get the same effect off say X1-KT (iron legion 11 keto) or Ostarine (20mg)?
Want to try to avoid anything else that I may not be able to use.
Thanks for your opinions.
06-16-2014, 08:03 PM
06-16-2014, 09:35 PM
I left town for the weekend & forgot to bring mine with me. Starting back up tomorrow. Gonna go with 2 pumps and see if I feel that.
06-17-2014, 12:11 AM
I doubt 1 pump (if I can handle that for say a month) will amount to anything. What do you think?
And do you think I would get the same effect off say X1-KT (iron legion 11 keto) or Ostarine (20mg)?
06-17-2014, 12:30 AM
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