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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    TTA going away makes me sad ****ers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    :::HUG:::: I know...there, there. Me too. But then again, we ended up being driven to formulate an even better product. You will not be disappointed.
    I'm a sad panda, too, but...

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    So...we looking at capsules instead of tablets? And thanks for backing up your creations with research!
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    So...we looking at capsules instead of tablets? And thanks for backing up your creations with research!
    Yep...back to capsules!
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    what is the water retention potential of the new vs. old dcp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldymcgee View Post
    what is the water retention potential of the new vs. old dcp?
    I didn't note much at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Yep...back to capsules!
    Will they be liquid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Will they be liquid?
    I can send you capsules full of liquid if you want the special batch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I can send you capsules full of liquid if you want the special batch.
    Ha! I just remember those goo filled horse capsules from way back when. It was messy in the bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Ha! I just remember those goo filled horse capsules from way back when. It was messy in the bottle.
    You know, in spite of their guarantee, I NEVER got a refund for those. I lost over $2k from ruined product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    You know, in spite of their guarantee, I NEVER got a refund for those. I lost over $2k from ruined product.
    Product still worked, so all was not lost
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    ETA 10 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    ETA 10 days.
    Excellent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    ETA 10 days.
    YOU EXPECT ME TO WAIT 10 DAYS?!

    But I'm bubbling with fat now?! SAVE ME FROM THE FAT DSADE, SAVE ME!

    Srsly though, can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwa254 View Post
    YOU EXPECT ME TO WAIT 10 DAYS?!

    But I'm bubbling with fat now?! SAVE ME FROM THE FAT DSADE, SAVE ME!

    Srsly though, can't wait.
    Sure, I can save you. Fat you say? Here, just put this apple in your mouth and come hang out in...errr, by the fire.
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    ETA 10 days.
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    Matt, physiologically speaking, would you know any reasons why supplements or drugs that work via PPAR-a or PPAR-y would not work on a human being? I never saw much from the original DCP. I also tried what I am pretty sure was legit gw-501516 and felt absolutely nothing. Not increase in fatloss, no stamina. Makes me wonder if the new DCP might be different for people like me or if it will be a waste of money for me. Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    Matt, physiologically speaking, would you know any reasons why supplements or drugs that work via PPAR-a or PPAR-y would not work on a human being? I never saw much from the original DCP. I also tried what I am pretty sure was legit gw-501516 and felt absolutely nothing. Not increase in fatloss, no stamina. Makes me wonder if the new DCP might be different for people like me or if it will be a waste of money for me. Any ideas?
    I wouldn't expect to 'feel' a PPAR agonist. Did you use another method of quantifying your results? I.e. did you not see changes in bodyfat or weight?
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    so how do you think dcp 2.0 will work with bulk TTA on the side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    Matt, physiologically speaking, would you know any reasons why supplements or drugs that work via PPAR-a or PPAR-y would not work on a human being? I never saw much from the original DCP. I also tried what I am pretty sure was legit gw-501516 and felt absolutely nothing. Not increase in fatloss, no stamina. Makes me wonder if the new DCP might be different for people like me or if it will be a waste of money for me. Any ideas?
    Individual expression of the PPAR isoforms varies wildly in individuals DCP 2.0 hits both alpha and delta, and includes ingredients that increase expression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    so how do you think dcp 2.0 will work with bulk TTA on the side?
    Sounds fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    I wouldn't expect to 'feel' a PPAR agonist. Did you use another method of quantifying your results? I.e. did you not see changes in bodyfat or weight?
    Yes, I didn't see the much loss in body fat with the original DCP. When I mentioned "feel", I was referring to GW-501516. Most report a thermogenic response, increase in fat loss and increased cardiovascular endurance. I didn't experience any of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    Yes, I didn't see the much loss in body fat with the original DCP. When I mentioned "feel", I was referring to GW-501516. Most report a thermogenic response, increase in fat loss and increased cardiovascular endurance. I didn't experience any of this.
    As good as it was for most not everyone responded to TTA. I'm interested to see the changes Matt makes to the formula in its absence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    Yes, I didn't see the much loss in body fat with the original DCP. When I mentioned "feel", I was referring to GW-501516. Most report a thermogenic response, increase in fat loss and increased cardiovascular endurance. I didn't experience any of this.
    Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.
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    Ah, DCP 2.0 has me excited...can't wait for this!
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    J Atheroscler Thromb. 2009;16(6):888-92. Epub 2009 Dec 22.
    Activating effect of momordin, extract of bitter melon (Momordica Charantia L.), on the promoter of human PPARdelta.

    Sasa M, Inoue I, Shinoda Y, Takahashi S, Seo M, Komoda T, Awata T, Katayama S.
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    Abstract

    AIM:

    Bitter melon (Momordica charantia L.) is a common vegetable grown in Okinawa that has also been used recently in medicine for the treatment of diseases such as diabetes, hypertension, and dyslipidemia. Among Bitter melon extracts compounds, we focused on an extract known as momordin in the present study, to examine its effect on peroxisome-proliferator activated-receptor (PPAR) delta (also called PPARdelta in rodents) expression and promoter activity of the human PPARdelta gene.
    METHODS:

    A human PPARdelta promoter-reporter plasmid was made as a template from a BAC CLONE (RPCI-11C) containing a -3076 bp (BglI site) +74 bp (EcoRI site) sequence. Luciferase assay of PPARdelta promoter activity was performed using HepG2 cells.
    RESULTS:

    10 and 25 nM Momordin significantly increased the expression of PPARdelta mRNA 1.5-fold (relative to the control). Moreover, 10 and 25 nM Momordin significantly increased PPARdelta promoter activity in a dose-dependent manner, reaching more than 1.5-fold relative to the control.
    CONCLUSION:

    Our present data obtained through successful cloning of the PPARdelta promoter demonstrate that PPARdelta production and activation are upregulated through PPARdelta promoter activity following momordin treatment.


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