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    Feel free to ask questions here.

    I am going to post a quick review so far after 2 weeks. Yes, I am the designer of the product. Yes, I am financially compensated by its success - but those of you who have watched my career realize that I don't bull****, nor do I design crappy products.

    Vanillean is the craziest product I've ever designed and used. The temperature increase is marked, quickly apparent, potent, and long lasting. This is extremely energy-costly. Appetite suppression is like nothing I have ever used as well, especially when combined with AlphaBurn (I have done both with and without). My yearly cut for the Arnold Classic started 2 weeks ago when I realized that I would NOT be able to continue my bulk without the kind of insane appetite it requires. No big deal, 3 weeks early.

    After 2 weeks I have come to a realization...if everything continues at this pace I will be finished to my satisfaction by the 2nd week in February, which is a bit too early IMO.

    I will be rolling this PAST anything I wanted to do (usually 10% or so), and shoot for 7-8%.
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    Would it be ok to take with ECA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjobe6 View Post
    Would it be ok to take with ECA?
    I would try by halting your dose of ECA. I have noticed an amplification with adrenergics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I would try by halting your dose of ECA. I have noticed an amplification with adrenergics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjobe6 View Post
    Would it be ok to take with ECA?
    To assess you tolerance, yes.

    1 Vanillean with 1 HEAT stack gets my heart racing pretty good for 45 minutes or so.
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    I picked some of this up and plan on starting it next week. Any advantage/ disadvantages to adding the following:

    Additional RK
    GCB
    DCP
    LCLT

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjobe6 View Post
    I picked some of this up and plan on starting it next week. Any advantage/ disadvantages to adding the following:

    Additional RK
    GCB
    DCP
    LCLT

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    I know im not Dsade but i actualy think that would be a really good and complete stack.

    GCB is just good in general, the Vanillean will free up fatty acids and the DCP will burn them. Among the many other positives the stack would have, seems like a win win to me.
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    Does Vanillean need to be taken with food to work properly? I know the bottle says to take with food but I wasnt sure if this was to avoid upset stomache or if it really needed to be taken with food

    I was considering taking one before bed with DCP /slintenitsy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    Does Vanillean need to be taken with food to work properly? I know the bottle says to take with food but I wasnt sure if this was to avoid upset stomache or if it really needed to be taken with food

    I was considering taking one before bed with DCP /slintenitsy
    I have been taking mine about 20 minutes before food with no issues. I will say it has killed my hunger. Im 266lbs and normally eat a TON and this has curbed my appetite a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkPerf View Post
    I have been taking mine about 20 minutes before food with no issues. I will say it has killed my hunger. Im 266lbs and normally eat a TON and this has curbed my appetite a lot.
    Thanks that is how I currently take it 20 min before a meal but was wondering if you can also take one before bed or if it needs to be taken before a meal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    Thanks that is how I currently take it 20 min before a meal but was wondering if you can also take one before bed or if it needs to be taken before a meal

    Cheers !
    You can definitely take it before bed.
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    This stuff has absolutely killed my appetite. I literally have to force myself to eat
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    Quote Originally Posted by southsideguy View Post
    This stuff has absolutely killed my appetite. I literally have to force myself to eat
    I can't wait to try it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post

    I can't wait to try it!
    Get ready for major appetite suppression my friend...
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    Quote Originally Posted by southsideguy View Post
    Get ready for major appetite suppression my friend...
    My wife and I had a Chinese Food date last night. I knew this, so I had to skip my afternoon dose, and I STILL barely ate anything.

    I recommend HIGHLY picking up some Ultra Peptide 2, some GlycoMyx, and some olive oil for some shakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    My wife and I had a Chinese Food date last night. I knew this, so I had to skip my afternoon dose, and I STILL barely ate anything.

    I recommend HIGHLY picking up some Ultra Peptide 2, some GlycoMyx, and some olive oil for some shakes.
    Just ordered 4 bottles sounds like you have another winner on your hands.

    I plan on trying your shake idea also . Any brand or type of olive oil ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    My wife and I had a Chinese Food date last night. I knew this, so I had to skip my afternoon dose, and I STILL barely ate anything.

    I recommend HIGHLY picking up some Ultra Peptide 2, some GlycoMyx, and some olive oil for some shakes.
    Glaf i have two tubs of GlycoMyx still!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    My wife and I had a Chinese Food date last night. I knew this, so I had to skip my afternoon dose, and I STILL barely ate anything.

    I recommend HIGHLY picking up some Ultra Peptide 2, some GlycoMyx, and some olive oil for some shakes.
    Good idea...
    I hope people don't think that we're exaggerating here. This stuff is the real deal..,
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    Quote Originally Posted by southsideguy View Post
    Good idea...
    I hope people don't think that we're exaggerating here. This stuff is the real deal..,
    The mechanisms will be explained in the full writeup...it's actually quite fascinating.
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    Would it make a difference if I dosed together or should I take the Vanillean then hour latter take DCP?
    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I know im not Dsade but i actualy think that would be a really good and complete stack.

    GCB is just good in general, the Vanillean will free up fatty acids and the DCP will burn them. Among the many other positives the stack would have, seems like a win win to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjobe6 View Post
    Would it make a difference if I dosed together or should I take the Vanillean then hour latter take DCP?
    I dont think it will make a difference to be honest. Id dose em togethor.
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    I can't wait for this! I am mid cycle right now but soon enough..
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    Stuff looks excellent can't wait to give it a try.
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    Does the appetite suppressant effect wear off or stay constant throughout useage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    Does the appetite suppressant effect wear off or stay constant throughout useage?
    It has been several weeks with no reduction in effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    It has been several weeks with no reduction in effect.

    Alright, now I'm gonna have to pick up a few
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    A few questions:

    1. Vanillean label reads to take 20 min before a meal. Does it always have to be pre-meal, or can you take a dose pre-workout (with no food following?)

    2. Can this be combined with HEAT (since both products contain evodiamine)?

    3. As for the above question about DCP, (which is recommended 30-45 min before a meal), can vanillean be taken then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Monk View Post
    A few questions:

    1. Vanillean label reads to take 20 min before a meal. Does it always have to be pre-meal, or can you take a dose pre-workout (with no food following?)

    2. Can this be combined with HEAT (since both products contain evodiamine)?

    3. As for the above question about DCP, (which is recommended 30-45 min before a meal), can vanillean be taken then?
    Food is not required, but it's more effective on an empty stomach. I have been experimenting with a pre-bed dose with a lot of success.

    Definitely can combine with HEAT, but watch for heartburn effects from the redundant Capsaicin dosing, if you are sensitive.

    You can definitely take the Vanillean earlier, with DCP.
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    ok to use with dex?
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    ok to use with dex?
    Dex? Dexaprine?
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    would this be a gppd addition to my bulk? obv i liek to keep fat gain down......also would it work better with a higher carb diet or higher fat diet or does it not really matter.........? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    would this be a gppd addition to my bulk? obv i liek to keep fat gain down......also would it work better with a higher carb diet or higher fat diet or does it not really matter.........? thanks
    From the affects I hear it has on appetite I wouldn't use it during a bulk. Maybe during a leaning phase at the end of a cycle. Like the last 30 days leading to pct.
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    Would this be ok with a supplement like T2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    Does the appetite suppressant effect wear off or stay constant throughout useage?
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    Would this be ok with a supplement like T2?
    It's pretty much stackable with anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    From the affects I hear it has on appetite I wouldn't use it during a bulk. Maybe during a leaning phase at the end of a cycle. Like the last 30 days leading to pct.

    im followin if right now so maybe it woudl help my hunger throughout the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    From the affects I hear it has on appetite I wouldn't use it during a bulk. Maybe during a leaning phase at the end of a cycle. Like the last 30 days leading to pct.
    Yeah this sounds like the exact opposite of what you'd want for a bulk....but the appetite killer quality is exactly what has me so excited for it. Especially if it sticks around. Many thermos kill my appetite for the first two days or so, but the effect wears off in a hurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post

    Yeah this sounds like the exact opposite of what you'd want for a bulk....but the appetite killer quality is exactly what has me so excited for it. Especially if it sticks around. Many thermos kill my appetite for the first two days or so, but the effect wears off in a hurry.
    Yeah I really want to try it at the end of a bulk like the last 30 days up to pct. From what guys are saying, they are eating in a huge deficit but not losing muscle at all. Dsade has some theories as to why (possible IGF-1 upregulation?) But non the less it would be interesting to see what it does at the end of a bulk. Might try it with a Test/NPP/anadrol/Var burst cycle I'm planning....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Would this be ok with a supplement like T2?
    Only if you want to sweat 24/7. That'd be an a crazy effective combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post

    Only if you want to sweat 24/7. That'd be an a crazy effective combo.
    It's about to happen. Along with a CKD. Should shed this fat obstructing my cycle gains. Really excited for this.
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