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    a little info please!!!!


    tell me something goood!!!!
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    Epic fat burner, pushing to get this into NP for black Friday. Hurricane set us back a bit though....still trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkPerf View Post
    Epic fat burner, pushing to get this into NP for black Friday. Hurricane set us back a bit though....still trying.
    yup..sandy did some damage!!!

    any hints on why it's epic?
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    Why it's epic? BPS made it, fool!


    Jk BulkPerf will be releasing a full writeup very very soon. Keep your eyes pealed for the next week or two. There are some BIG BIG things coming from BPS that are going to make a lot of people very happy. Vanillean is just the tip of the iceberg.
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    From the other thread, since it went by pretty quick:

    A partial ingredients list

    Raspberry Ketones
    Zingerone
    Vanillin
    Capsaicin
    Carvacrol
    Allyl Isothiocyanate
    Black Pepper Extract

    So you can expect lots of heat, vasodilation and fatty acid mobilization, not to mention increased insulin sensitivity as a secondary effect. And still more yet to be seen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    From the other thread, since it went by pretty quick:

    A partial ingredients list

    Raspberry Ketones
    Zingerone
    Vanillin
    Capsaicin
    Carvacrol
    Allyl Isothiocyanate
    Black Pepper Extract

    So you can expect lots of heat, vasodilation and fatty acid mobilization, not to mention increased insulin sensitivity as a secondary effect. And still more yet to be seen!
    zingerone, i think i tried that in an e-pharm product-good stuff!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve
    From the other thread, since it went by pretty quick:

    A partial ingredients list

    Raspberry Ketones
    Zingerone
    Vanillin
    Capsaicin
    Carvacrol
    Allyl Isothiocyanate
    Black Pepper Extract

    So you can expect lots of heat, vasodilation and fatty acid mobilization, not to mention increased insulin sensitivity as a secondary effect. And still more yet to be seen!
    I can't wait! I'm gunna run it with a peptide stack and log it! Or maybe run an epic BPS only stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    I can't wait! I'm gunna run it with a peptide stack and log it! Or maybe run an epic BPS only stack.
    Got some 7-Keto and Formasurge I plan to use with mine eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve

    Got some 7-Keto and Formasurge I plan to use with mine eventually.
    Mmmmm... sounds tasty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    Mmmmm... sounds tasty!
    Yep. The plan, from what I understand, is that the release for this will hopefully coincide with NP's black friday sale. I know Sandy set us back a bit, but I'm still hoping!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Yep. The plan, from what I understand, is that the release for this will hopefully coincide with NP's black friday sale. I know Sandy set us back a bit, but I'm still hoping!
    me too man. I have some cash set aside to buy a sweet stack and I have my eye on some goodies at nutraplanet.
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    Awesome looking ingredients thus far!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Awesome looking ingredients thus far!
    oooohraaaah
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    Looks sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Looks sweet!
    Thanks Natty! We'll have to get some Anabeta elite/Vanillean stacks going for an awesome recomp combo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Thanks Natty! We'll have to get some Anabeta elite/Vanillean stacks going for an awesome recomp combo!
    This stack would be EPIC!
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    Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
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    holy sh*t I am like a little kid!!!!!!! I CANT WAIT!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    holy sh*t I am like a little kid!!!!!!! I CANT WAIT!!!
    i want what i want when i want it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkPerf View Post
    Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
    Great news!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkPerf View Post
    Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
    awwww yeah. might actually lean out during these winter months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkPerf View Post
    Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
    Yes!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkPerf View Post
    Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
    of course you will want thebigt stamp of approval....


    bigt don't know much, but he sure nows his stims, lol.
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    I'm in, this stuff looks awesome and is a good replacement for HEAT stack. Any loggers or testers in because I'm down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodock View Post
    Is this a transdermal?
    No, its not a transdermal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanp81
    I'm in, this stuff looks awesome and is a good replacement for HEAT stack. Any loggers or testers in because I'm down
    No word yet but you know BPS loves to give out stuff to be logged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    No word yet but you know BPS loves to give out stuff to be logged.
    wow!!! what an amazing coincidence...i love to recieve stuff to be logged!!!!
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    indeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    No word yet but you know BPS loves to give out stuff to be logged.
    Oh I know bubba, your "spread the love" policy is a honored tradition ...I wouldn't have asked if that wasn't the case.
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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=20577883

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    Obesity (Silver Spring). 2010 Apr;18(4):780-7. doi: 10.1038/oby.2009.301. Epub 2009 Oct 1.
    Dietary capsaicin reduces obesity-induced insulin resistance and hepatic steatosis in obese mice fed a high-fat diet.

    Kang JH, Goto T, Han IS, Kawada T, Kim YM, Yu R.
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    Obesity-induced inflammation contributes to the development of obesity-related metabolic disorders such as insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, fatty liver disease, and cardiovascular disease. In this study, we investigated whether dietary capsaicin can reduce obesity-induced inflammation and metabolic disorders such as insulin resistance and hepatic steatosis. Male C57BL/6 obese mice fed a high-fat diet for 10 weeks received a supplement of 0.015% capsaicin for a further 10 weeks and were compared with unsupplemented controls. Glucose intolerance was estimated by glucose tolerance tests. Transcripts of adipocytokine genes and the corresponding proteins were measured by reverse transcription-PCR and enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, and macrophage numbers were determined by flow cytometric analysis. Transient receptor potential vanilloid type-1 (TRPV-1), peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor (PPAR)-alpha, and PPARgamma coactivator-1alpha (PGC-1alpha) mRNAs were also measured by RT-PCR, and PPARalpha luciferase assays were performed. Dietary capsaicin lowered fasting glucose, insulin, leptin levels, and markedly reduced the impairment of glucose tolerance in obese mice. Levels of tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNFalpha), monocyte chemoattractant protein-1 (MCP-1), and interleukin (IL)-6 mRNAs and proteins in adipose tissue and liver decreased markedly, as did macrophage infiltration, hepatic triglycerides, and TRPV-1 expression in adipose tissue. At the same time, the mRNA/protein of adiponectin in the adipose tissue and PPARalpha/PGC-1alpha mRNA in the liver increased. Moreover, luciferase assays revealed that capsaicin is capable of binding PPARalpha. Our data suggest that dietary capsaicin may reduce obesity-induced glucose intolerance by not only suppressing inflammatory responses but also enhancing fatty acid oxidation in adipose tissue and/or liver, both of which are important peripheral tissues affecting insulin resistance. The effects of capsaicin in adipose tissue and liver are related to its dual action on PPARalpha and TRPV-1 expression/activation.

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    OK...so I was about to order this today until I read some info concerning Allyl Isothiocyanate. I realize that 1 mg or less per capsule may not be much, but it concerns me that it is included at all. Why does something that is so toxic need to be included. Ever heard of mustard gas? That is some bad stuff. If I understand the info I came across, then I guess that 151 mg/kg is considered the median lethal dose. But what gets me is that it IS LETHAL. Not knowing the ongoing effects of taking the small dose, I think I would rather wait and see how others do on this. I suspect it clears the body rather quickly, but I have no idea if any of it is stored. The info I read can be found on Wiki for anyone interested. Just don't understand why this needs to be in the formula...seems like it would be fine without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbp View Post
    OK...so I was about to order this today until I read some info concerning Allyl Isothiocyanate. I realize that 1 mg or less per capsule may not be much, but it concerns me that it is included at all. Why does something that is so toxic need to be included. Ever heard of mustard gas? That is some bad stuff. If I understand the info I came across, then I guess that 151 mg/kg is considered the median lethal dose. But what gets me is that it IS LETHAL. Not knowing the ongoing effects of taking the small dose, I think I would rather wait and see how others do on this. I suspect it clears the body rather quickly, but I have no idea if any of it is stored. The info I read can be found on Wiki for anyone interested. Just don't understand why this needs to be in the formula...seems like it would be fine without it.
    Water has a lethal dose.

    Allyl isothiocyanate is the active pungent ingredient in mustard, horse radish, and wasabi. I assure you it is quite safe at the dosage used.
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    More information: LD50 of caffeine (from wikipedia) The LD50 of caffeine in humans is dependent on individual sensitivity, but is estimated to be about 150 to 200 milligrams per kilogram.

    Allyl Isothiocyanate -
    Allyl isothiocyanate is fairly toxic with LD50 of 151 mg/kg and is a dangerous lachrymator.


    Personally, I weigh a bit over 100kg, which means I would have to take, at one time, around 300 capsules of Vanillean to have a 50% chance of dying.
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    More information (to be included in the full writeup)....AI is a potent agonist for the TRPA1 receptor, which induces thermogenesis and lipolysis (through indirect stimulation of catecholamines).

    Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 2008 Oct;72(10):2608-14. Epub 2008 Oct 7.
    TRPA1 agonists--allyl isothiocyanate and cinnamaldehyde--induce adrenaline secretion.

    Iwasaki Y, Tanabe M, Kobata K, Watanabe T.
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    Thermosensitive transient receptor potential (TRP) channels, especially TRPV1 and TRPA1, are activated by the pungent compounds present in spices. TRPV1 activation by the intake of capsaicin, the irritant in hot pepper, induces adrenaline secretion and increases energy consumption. TRPV1 is mainly expressed in the sensory neurons and coexpressed with TRPA1 at a high frequency. However, the mechanism underlying adrenaline secretion by TRPA1 agonists such as allyl isothiocyanate (AITC) and cinnamaldehyde (CNA), the pungent ingredients in mustard and cinnamon, is not known. We examined whether AITC and CNA could induce adrenaline secretion in anesthetized rats. An intravenous injection of AITC or CNA (10 mg/kg) increased adrenaline secretion. These responses disappeared completely in capsaicin-treated rats with an impaired sensory nerve function. Moreover, pretreatment with cholinergic blockers (hexamethonium and atropine) attenuated the AITC- or CNA-induced adrenaline secretion. These results suggest that TRPA1 agonists activate the sensory nerves and induce adrenaline secretion via the central nervous system.

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    Thanks dsade. Yea, I figured it to be a very small amt. and probably no problem. I may go ahead and try some. Just had concerns about how the body would flush it or store it. Sure, there are many things we consume safely that have a potential lethal dose...I understand that. But comparing this to water? Water by itself is not used as an insecticide, bactericide, and nematocide. It's things like that, that concern me. Of course, pepper spray is potent as well, and used for bear spray...very unpleasant, but not sure that would be deadly toxic.

    Anyway, if I understand "toxic with LD50 of 151 mg/kg", that would mean it would take approximately 12 grams as a lethal dose for 50% of people weighing 175 Lbs. So yea, 3 mg a day is very minimal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbp View Post
    Thanks dsade. Yea, I figured it to be a very small amt. and probably no problem. I may go ahead and try some. Just had concerns about how the body would flush it or store it. Sure, there are many things we consume safely that have a potential lethal dose...I understand that. But comparing this to water? Water by itself is not used as an insecticide, bactericide, and nematocide. It's things like that, that concern me. Of course, pepper spray is potent as well, and used for bear spray...very unpleasant, but not sure that would be deadly toxic.

    Anyway, if I understand "toxic with LD50 of 151 mg/kg", that would mean it would take approximately 12 grams as a lethal dose for 50% of people weighing 175 Lbs. So yea, 3 mg a day is very minimal.
    That's actually for the Carvacrol/AI complex, which is roughly 50:50, so full dose is only 1.5mg per day. Again, this compound is consumed all over the world, every day....you are safe.
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