a little info please!!!!
tell me something goood!!!!
tell me something goood!!!!
yup..sandy did some damage!!!Epic fat burner, pushing to get this into NP for black Friday. Hurricane set us back a bit though....still trying.
zingerone, i think i tried that in an e-pharm product-good stuff!!!From the other thread, since it went by pretty quick:
A partial ingredients list
Raspberry Ketones
Zingerone
Vanillin
Capsaicin
Carvacrol
Allyl Isothiocyanate
Black Pepper Extract
So you can expect lots of heat, vasodilation and fatty acid mobilization, not to mention increased insulin sensitivity as a secondary effect. And still more yet to be seen!
I can't wait! I'm gunna run it with a peptide stack and log it! Or maybe run an epic BPS only stack.From the other thread, since it went by pretty quick:
A partial ingredients list
Raspberry Ketones
Zingerone
Vanillin
Capsaicin
Carvacrol
Allyl Isothiocyanate
Black Pepper Extract
So you can expect lots of heat, vasodilation and fatty acid mobilization, not to mention increased insulin sensitivity as a secondary effect. And still more yet to be seen!
Got some 7-Keto and Formasurge I plan to use with mine eventually. :naughty:I can't wait! I'm gunna run it with a peptide stack and log it! Or maybe run an epic BPS only stack.
Mmmmm... sounds tasty!Got some 7-Keto and Formasurge I plan to use with mine eventually. :naughty:
Yep. The plan, from what I understand, is that the release for this will hopefully coincide with NP's black friday sale. I know Sandy set us back a bit, but I'm still hoping!Mmmmm... sounds tasty!
me too man. I have some cash set aside to buy a sweet stack and I have my eye on some goodies at nutraplanet.Yep. The plan, from what I understand, is that the release for this will hopefully coincide with NP's black friday sale. I know Sandy set us back a bit, but I'm still hoping!
oooohraaaahAwesome looking ingredients thus far!
Thanks Natty! We'll have to get some Anabeta elite/Vanillean stacks going for an awesome recomp combo!Looks sweet!
This stack would be EPIC!Thanks Natty! We'll have to get some Anabeta elite/Vanillean stacks going for an awesome recomp combo!
i want what i want when i want it.....:17:holy sh*t I am like a little kid!!!!!!! I CANT WAIT!!!
Great news!Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
awwww yeah. might actually lean out during these winter months.Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
Yes!!!!Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
of course you will want thebigt stamp of approval....Vanillean will be ready next week!!!
No, its not a transdermal.Is this a transdermal?
No word yet but you know BPS loves to give out stuff to be logged.I'm in, this stuff looks awesome and is a good replacement for HEAT stack. Any loggers or testers in because I'm down
wow!!! what an amazing coincidence...i love to recieve stuff to be logged!!!!:smileeek:No word yet but you know BPS loves to give out stuff to be logged.
Oh I know bubba, your "spread the love" policy is a honored tradition :notworthy:...I wouldn't have asked if that wasn't the case.No word yet but you know BPS loves to give out stuff to be logged.
Water has a lethal dose.OK...so I was about to order this today until I read some info concerning Allyl Isothiocyanate. I realize that 1 mg or less per capsule may not be much, but it concerns me that it is included at all. Why does something that is so toxic need to be included. Ever heard of mustard gas? That is some bad stuff. If I understand the info I came across, then I guess that 151 mg/kg is considered the median lethal dose. But what gets me is that it IS LETHAL. Not knowing the ongoing effects of taking the small dose, I think I would rather wait and see how others do on this. I suspect it clears the body rather quickly, but I have no idea if any of it is stored. The info I read can be found on Wiki for anyone interested. Just don't understand why this needs to be in the formula...seems like it would be fine without it.
That's actually for the Carvacrol/AI complex, which is roughly 50:50, so full dose is only 1.5mg per day. Again, this compound is consumed all over the world, every day....you are safe.Thanks dsade. Yea, I figured it to be a very small amt. and probably no problem. I may go ahead and try some. Just had concerns about how the body would flush it or store it. Sure, there are many things we consume safely that have a potential lethal dose...I understand that. But comparing this to water? Water by itself is not used as an insecticide, bactericide, and nematocide. It's things like that, that concern me. Of course, pepper spray is potent as well, and used for bear spray...very unpleasant, but not sure that would be deadly toxic.
Anyway, if I understand "toxic with LD50 of 151 mg/kg", that would mean it would take approximately 12 grams as a lethal dose for 50% of people weighing 175 Lbs. So yea, 3 mg a day is very minimal.
hahaha duly noted.Advice: do NOT stick your nose into a bottle of Vanillean and inhale deeply. The Allyl Isothiocyanate will clear sinuses pretty quickly.
Nice, I can't wait to get my bottles now.Advice: do NOT stick your nose into a bottle of Vanillean and inhale deeply. The Allyl Isothiocyanate will clear sinuses pretty quickly.
You can try the Vanillean product by itself first, then add the RK BACK in after a week or two. That will be a good comparison.Great info here. Hopefully I'll be lucky enough to log for ya bps ! This may be just the non stim product I've been looking for !
As an aside; I use rk500 essentially year round.. 2-3 caps a day... (not for the potential log) but would you see any reason not to add perhaps ONE cap of rk500 pre largest meal while using vanillean, u know to keep a higher dosing of rk like I am accustomed to?
Yea. Especially if im selected to log, I wouldn't wanna skew the results. Just kinda brainstorming.. Te difference between 3 rk500 and 2 daily is minimal so I'm sure with vanilleans proposed lipolytic effects and ability to shrink fat cells, the extra rk would only be redundant or minimal in differences..You can try the Vanillean product by itself first, then add the RK BACK in after a week or two. That will be a good comparison.
So I can just throw out that bottle of nasal spray then? Just another perk to Vanillean .Advice: do NOT stick your nose into a bottle of Vanillean and inhale deeply. The Allyl Isothiocyanate will clear sinuses pretty quickly.
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