Vector Blood Work

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Transhuman View Post
    Comparing the price of one thing to the price of another isn't comparing apples to oranges.
    No, his analogy fit perfectly. Allow me to take it to an extreme to illustrate how well.

    Rat Poison is cheap;
    Non Rat Poison is also cheap;
    One can kill you, and the other cannot;
    Since both are the same price.

    Therefor:
    I'm comparing price right?
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    No, his analogy fit perfectly. Allow me to take it to an extreme to illustrate how well.

    Rat Poison is cheap;
    Non Rat Poison is also cheap;
    One can kill you, and the other cannot;
    Since both are the same price.

    I'm comparing price right?
    ... What? The price was relevant to my comment but irrelevant in whatever analogy you think you're using.

    Let me rephrase what I said then:
    Vector is pricey for what you get.
    AAS aren't pricey for what you get.
    One is proven to be effective, the other relies on anecdotal evidence.
    One gives you great results, the other gives you results.
    One has side effects that aren't dangerous if you did your research, the other doesn't have any side effects.

    I initially wasn't comparing the efficacy of the two as that would be senseless nor was I denying the efficacy of Vector as I haven't used it. I'm not BLR's marketed consumer since I don't think natural anabolics are worth the cost.

    All this because I told MikeyMike he'd get better results from hormonal anabolics for around the same cost.
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  3. Well, Just to make it clear. I have used both AAS, and Vector. Currently, in week 2 of Vector and buying more this week. Will run through October when I get bloodwork done. Then we will see what this does, and just to be clear, not on cycle now and have been off for months now
    I mean if you really hate your balls, go for it. But, what did they do to you?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Transhuman View Post
    You can buy PHs or AAS for that price with much greater results.
    So for 50$, you can do a PH or AAS run? Your a total ****in moron.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bigsmall View Post
    So for 50$, you can do a PH or AAS run? Your a total ****in moron.
    I have never been able to run an AAS for $50, but if I could. That would be the bomb. No clue about PH, I dont run that $h!t
    I mean if you really hate your balls, go for it. But, what did they do to you?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bigsmall View Post
    So for 50$, you can do a PH or AAS run? Your a total ****in moron.
    You're* and yes. It's like you're not even trying.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by bigsmall View Post
    So for 50$, you can do a PH or AAS run? Your a total ****in moron.
    Someone is salty. Guess you dont remember when PHs were like 35$.... they are barely $50 from the UK. So um yeah

  8. I donít know about vector

    Claims to have multiple blood tests with 0 effects on hormones

    Next someone gets a blood test and is seen to have a increase in test which therefore affects other hormones like estrogen/DHT

    When questioned ďitís not a test booster, but if it does raise test itís a bonusĒ

    That is very fishy to me how you can have 0 movement in all blood tests previous o releasing the product but then act all naive when blood test comes back saying otherwise (possible spiked product or skewed results)

    Looking forward to seeing other blood tests from other people on the forum

  9. At the end of my second bottle, enjoyed the appetite increase and leaning effects, felt great on it so not taking a dig at the product.

    There are just too many variables here to attribute any sort of test increase to the vector. Is it impossible? No. The waters here are just way too muddy to make any assertions.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by horizons View Post
    I don’t know about vector

    Claims to have multiple blood tests with 0 effects on hormones

    Next someone gets a blood test and is seen to have a increase in test which therefore affects other hormones like estrogen/DHT

    When questioned “it’s not a test booster, but if it does raise test it’s a bonus”

    That is very fishy to me how you can have 0 movement in all blood tests previous o releasing the product but then act all naive when blood test comes back saying otherwise (possible spiked product or skewed results)

    Looking forward to seeing other blood tests from other people on the forum
    I had pre Vector bloods done (my first panel ever, actually), and will be getting post Vector bloods done. So far I'm about 1.5 tubs in, planning a 12 week run, so will probably have results by beginning of July. I have nothing to hide, not taking anything else besides creatine, lifetime natty, and am very curious myself. My test/e2 came back pretty good at 645 test,serum, 21.9 e2. Pre Vector lab can be seen here: Cheap Bloodwork - How to Get It WITHOUT Insurance

    I'll be sure to post the post Vector labs in all Vector threads that are discussing lab work, which is why I'm posting in this one as a reminder for myself.

  11. Looking forward to you post vector labs!

  12. So since it potentially rasies LH, there for test etc. Is there any chance it could aggravate pre-existing gyno? Certain supps I can't touch, like forskolin or divanil for this reason.

  13. why is there so much discussion on it being a test booster. It’s not marketed as such and doesn’t say on the bottle. Let’s report movement in weights, changes in body comp. if you want more test take an AI, a test booster, or take test.

  14. Boomerang effect of BLR and its reps hyping the results of a debatable set of bloodwork to insinuate significant test boosting potential of vector. Lol

  15. Quote Originally Posted by ucheoma View Post
    Boomerang effect of BLR and its reps hyping the results of a debatable set of bloodwork to insinuate significant test boosting potential of vector. Lol
    Not one rep. Show me any of us hyping test boosting of Vector.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by ucheoma View Post
    Boomerang effect of BLR and its reps hyping the results of a debatable set of bloodwork to insinuate significant test boosting potential of vector. Lol
    Really?

  17. Im getting labs done today for my annual physical. Im 6 weeks post trt and only used clomid for 2 weeks when i came off. Im currently using trib and lj100 so i am not sure if it will affect my labs but i might try vector and get labs on it. I need all the help i can get in the gym, its not easy training natty after 5 years on test. Any thoughts or suggestions.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Independent View Post
    Im getting labs done today for my annual physical. Im 6 weeks post trt and only used clomid for 2 weeks when i came off. Im currently using trib and lj100 so i am not sure if it will affect my labs but i might try vector and get labs on it. I need all the help i can get in the gym, its not easy training natty after 5 years on test. Any thoughts or suggestions.
    If you are fully restarted to baseline, I don't think Trib & LJ100 will effect any outcome when adding in Vector. I may suggest a few things in addition to Vector for your rolling back like thunder in the gym. I'd plan on 12 weeks with these, and you'll be off to a great new beginning! (I am).

    - Vector (Most potent natural anabolic out, and it's anti-inflammatory!)
    - Viron (Helps with more than just increasing free testosterone)
    - Letrone (Great sleep, recovery, and more GH)

    M
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  19. Prior to trt my e2 levels were always low, do you thonk letrone will crash estrogen to much?
    Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    If you are fully restarted to baseline, I don't think Trib & LJ100 will effect any outcome when adding in Vector. I may suggest a few things in addition to Vector for your rolling back like thunder in the gym. I'd plan on 12 weeks with these, and you'll be off to a great new beginning! (I am).

    - Vector (Most potent natural anabolic out, and it's anti-inflammatory!)
    - Viron (Helps with more than just increasing free testosterone)
    - Letrone (Great sleep, recovery, and more GH)

    M

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Independent View Post
    Im getting labs done today for my annual physical. Im 6 weeks post trt and only used clomid for 2 weeks when i came off. Im currently using trib and lj100 so i am not sure if it will affect my labs but i might try vector and get labs on it. I need all the help i can get in the gym, its not easy training natty after 5 years on test. Any thoughts or suggestions.
    Your hormones are likely a bit out of whack.
    If you were on TRT there is a good chance your HPTA wont recover and 2 weeks of Clomid is unlikely to do the job.
    You will need a serious restart and even then, after 5 years on TRT there is a good chance you wont be able to regain function.
    You probably started TRT because test levels were low. 5 years on TRT isnt going to fix this.
    The entire purpose of Lj100 is to effect testosterone levels so this will have an effect the labs.

    1. if you want any hope of restoring testicular function you need a strong pharm PCT. I would run 8 weeks.
    4 weeks clomid, HCG.
    4 weeks clomid, exemestane.

    The chance that Lj100 and Vector is going to restart your HPTA is basically 0%
    I dont want to sound negative but lets be realistic.
    In your case you will need to either remain on TRT or run a legit PCT. 2 weeks of Clomid isnt enough at all. IN fact you might not be able to restart at all.
    So hit it hard, if you dont recover go back on TRT.
    This isnt a case where supplements are going to fix things.
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  21. I completely agree, i couldnt handle the clomid so i stopped. My thoughts were if im not restarted to baseline i will run another serm, just not clomid. Im not relying on the supps for recovery but they cant hurt. I did run hcg most of the time i was on trt. I really do feel im back to baseline on how i feel and my balls are huge again lol. Not sure if that means anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Your hormones are likely a bit out of whack.
    If you were on TRT there is a good chance your HPTA wont recover and 2 weeks of Clomid is unlikely to do the job.
    You will need a serious restart and even then, after 5 years on TRT there is a good chance you wont be able to regain function.
    You probably started TRT because test levels were low. 5 years on TRT isnt going to fix this.
    The entire purpose of Lj100 is to effect testosterone levels so this will have an effect the labs.

    1. if you want any hope of restoring testicular function you need a strong pharm PCT. I would run 8 weeks.
    4 weeks clomid, HCG.
    4 weeks clomid, exemestane.

    The chance that Lj100 and Vector is going to restart your HPTA is basically 0%
    I dont want to sound negative but lets be realistic.
    In your case you will need to either remain on TRT or run a legit PCT. 2 weeks of Clomid isnt enough at all. IN fact you might not be able to restart at all.
    So hit it hard, if you dont recover go back on TRT.
    This isnt a case where supplements are going to fix things.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Independent View Post
    I completely agree, i couldnt handle the clomid so i stopped. My thoughts were if im not restarted to baseline i will run another serm, just not clomid. Im not relying on the supps for recovery but they cant hurt. I did run hcg most of the time i was on trt. I really you rundo feel im back to baseline on how i feel and my balls are huge again lol. Not sure if that means anything.
    Do you run labs? Would be great to know where everything was. Just to know how to proceed.
    It cant hurt to run some supps though.
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  23. One thing to note is that it seems there's only 1 study that references LH/testosterone increase, and this is in female rats... Who knows if this would even carry over to male rats. Also female rats would have natural hormonal fluctuations, so the study is a little flawed in that regard.

  24. I do run labs, which ones are you referring too? Pre trt, during trt? I got labs done yesterday.
    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Do you run labs? Would be great to know where everything was. Just to know how to proceed.
    It cant hurt to run some supps though.

  25. What study and supplement are you referring to?
    Quote Originally Posted by Infiknite View Post
    One thing to note is that it seems there's only 1 study that references LH/testosterone increase, and this is in female rats... Who knows if this would even carry over to male rats. Also female rats would have natural hormonal fluctuations, so the study is a little flawed in that regard.
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