Should i take Viron to help with libido after Epistane?

  1. Should i take Viron to help with libido after Epistane?


    Hello,

    I did a cycle of epistane for 5 weeks.

    Since coming off i have had very low libido, its improved slightly after PCT, but i am now 2 weeks after PCT and still the same. Libido is still very low hardly ever any sex drive. My PCT was clomid and Tamoxifen

    I was suggested to take viron to increase testosterone and improve sex drive.

    Im no longer taking anything PCT or PH. Am i ok to start taking this by itself?

    Would i notice any benefit from this product? thanks


  2. Viron should boost your free test levels which will in turn increase libido. I notice a huge boost after two days with Viron. It most certainly should help with your libido. What concerns me is whether or not your SERMs were legit and if you are still suppressed. Ordinarily you should be feeling pretty normal libido wise by week 2 or 3 of PCT. Have you checked your bloods? Is libido low or non-existent? Rebirth/Viron and possibly Letrone would be an awesome stack to continue PCT with until you are fully recovered. I would also advise checking blood labs to be sure. Otherwise, you could be missing what the true problem is. But if your SERMs were bunk and you're still not recovered you should give the BLR PCT stack a go. You will be happy you did.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Jebrook View Post
    Viron should boost your free test levels which will in turn increase libido. I notice a huge boost after two days with Viron. It most certainly should help with your libido. What concerns me is whether or not your SERMs were legit and if you are still suppressed. Ordinarily you should be feeling pretty normal libido wise by week 2 or 3 of PCT. Have you checked your bloods? Is libido low or non-existent? Rebirth/Viron and possibly Letrone would be an awesome stack to continue PCT with until you are fully recovered. I would also advise checking blood labs to be sure. Otherwise, you could be missing what the true problem is. But if your SERMs were bunk and you're still not recovered you should give the BLR PCT stack a go. You will be happy you did.
    I already take dermacrine as a test base. However, can Viron also act like a test base?
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  4. It's not a test base, it's a natural test booster. I don't think the effects would be as evident on cycle. It is best served in pct or as part of a natural anabolic stack. I'm not sure if it would help libido on cycle as I've never used it for that, but it definitely doesn't convert to test or dht like traditional test bases.
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  5. I purchased them from adc which has been suggested by a lot of people.
    Im going to ask for my bloods done at my GP.

    Its come back a bit, i get random hard ons now and want to have sex sometimes but when we go to, it goes up then just like its bored and goes back down again like there is no drive to want to.

    My pct was a bit messed up. I started taking 20/20/10 tamoxifen, the. Because i didnt feel better i started taking clomid at 50mg a day and continued tamoxifen. But i the went on holiday abroad so had to stop altogether. So my pct was

    Tamoxifen 20/20/10/20/20
    Clomid /50/50
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Jebrook View Post
    It's not a test base, it's a natural test booster. I don't think the effects would be as evident on cycle. It is best served in pct or as part of a natural anabolic stack. I'm not sure if it would help libido on cycle as I've never used it for that, but it definitely doesn't convert to test or dht like traditional test bases.
    It's definitely helped libido during my ostarine/Gw cycle!
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by jgntyce View Post
    It's definitely helped libido during my ostarine/Gw cycle!
    Good to know. Thanks!
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  8. Aside from test boosting, Long Jack has been proven to be one of the best libido boosters out there.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by kboxer7 View Post
    Aside from test boosting, Long Jack has been proven to be one of the best libido boosters out there.
    Isnt this just like horny goat weed?.

    Been taking horny goat weed along with vit d fir the last 2 weeks and not noticed anything.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by vinylpusher1 View Post
    Isnt this just like horny goat weed?.

    Been taking horny goat weed along with vit d fir the last 2 weeks and not noticed anything.
    I feel that the research behind Long Jack, especially as it pertains to libido boosting is much better than that of horny goat weed. I can pull studies if it will help you. Just ask.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by vinylpusher1 View Post
    Isnt this just like horny goat weed?.

    Been taking horny goat weed along with vit d fir the last 2 weeks and not noticed anything.
    Horny goat weed is Epimedium grandfiflorum
    Viron contains eurycoma longifolia and Boron citrate.

    so they are 100% different.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by kboxer7 View Post
    I feel that the research behind Long Jack, especially as it pertains to libido boosting is much better than that of horny goat weed. I can pull studies if it will help you. Just ask.
    Ive been looking into it a bit and can see research does say its better.

    If i take these supplements though, isnt it just going to mask the problem. Just like taking viagra every few days?.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Horny goat weed is Epimedium grandfiflorum
    Viron contains eurycoma longifolia and Boron citrate.

    so they are 100% different.
    The horny goat weed i brought cost me 3.50. So i would hope it is different being 27 a bottle

  14. Quote Originally Posted by vinylpusher1 View Post
    Ive been looking into it a bit and can see research does say its better.

    If i take these supplements though, isnt it just going to mask the problem. Just like taking viagra every few days?.
    It depends on the problem. If your recovering from a cycle then it can have long term effects.
    If not it will still help with libido, strength, muscle growth, mood, energy etc etc.These effects may wane pose cycle but because the product is not harmful in any way you can use it year round.
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  15. Brundel, what do you think about bulbine?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by lukinosnake View Post
    Brundel, what do you think about bulbine?
    I havnt dug into the research much.
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