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    Questions and Answers. Ask away.....


    This thread is for any questions you guys might have. This way Ill be alerted any time someone replies in here.
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    Just started Formeron and Incinderine today. How long will Formeron last at 2 pumps a day and how long does it take to kick in?

    Took my 1st dose of Incinderine this morning and I love that it doesn't make me jittery like some other fat burners I've tried. Also love how quickly Formeron dries and how clean it smells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    What's in the pipeline?
    We have a few things in the works.
    The nearest to completion/release is in final blood work phase.
    I can only tell you that with 1 cap per day and nothing else in my system my bloodwork looks like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grocker View Post
    Just started Formeron and Incinderine today. How long will Formeron last at 2 pumps a day and how long does it take to kick in?

    Took my 1st dose of Incinderine this morning and I love that it doesn't make me jittery like some other fat burners I've tried. Also love how quickly Formeron dries and how clean it smells.
    At that dose youll get approx 40 days with the Formeron. Maybe a few days less.

    I know how you feel about the fat burners in todays market. Most are caffeine pills with proprietary blends. Sure if you take a ton of caffeine youll feel it but everything else is in trace amounts so the product doesnt work.

    Incinderine on the other hand has 6 ingredients all at the proper doses. In addition we dont rely on the stims to do the heavy lifting.
    They dont make me feel jittery either.

    I would expect you to notice the combo within a week or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    We have a few things in the works.
    The nearest to completion/release is in final blood work phase.
    I can only tell you that with 1 cap per day and nothing else in my system my bloodwork looks like this.

    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90 528"/>
    Too good to be true. If these blood values could be maintained for several weeks only by taking a natty supp you will get rich with this product very soon.When do you think it will be available in europe?
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    My bloodwork was exceptional. But the lowest total t level we acheived was in the 900 range with free t at approx 400. Again the key is the free t level. Doesnt matter if total t is 3 if your free t is 400
    Im not sure when we will release. Still running bloodwork. But powermyself ajd jw supps in the uk will get it as soon as everyone here does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    My bloodwork was exceptional. But the lowest total t level we acheived was in the 900 range with free t at approx 400. Again the key is the free t level. Doesnt matter if total t is 3 if your free t is 400
    Im not sure when we will release. Still running bloodwork. But powermyself ajd jw supps in the uk will get it as soon as everyone here does.
    So is this going to be a natty supp or no?
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    Define "natty".


    There are no steroids or prohormones involved.
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    i would log this for you on the uk/european boards if you like. Doesnt have to be a sponsored log! I know powermyself an jw well too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    i would log this for you on the uk/european boards if you like. Doesnt have to be a sponsored log! I know powermyself an jw well too.
    Hmm. How do you feel about logging some of our current products over there?

    Maybe a cut stack ..Form/Incinderine/ maybe a prolactrone
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    Hmm. How do you feel about logging some of our current products over there?

    Maybe a cut stack ..Form/Incinderine/ maybe a prolactrone
    Its not time for me to cut yet.Want to put on some lbs of lbm before.The formeron i already tried on a cut. Its a decent product though i didnt use the best application sides on that run.But helped me to retain my strength.I think its the best OTC AI product worldwide. Prolactrone looks decent but also has a decent price tag here in europe.Incinderine i dont know why i was disappointed as i saw the ingredient panel.Perhaps i was expecting some novel wonder cutting compound in it but it "only" contains stuff i already know and take when im cutting.Dont doubt its effective though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Its not time for me to cut yet.Want to put on some lbs of lbm before.The formeron i already tried on a cut. Its a decent product though i didnt use the best application sides on that run.But helped me to retain my strength.I think its the best OTC AI product worldwide. Prolactrone looks decent but also has a decent price tag here in europe.Incinderine i dont know why i was disappointed as i saw the ingredient panel.Perhaps i was expecting some novel wonder cutting compound in it but it "only" contains stuff i already know and take when im cutting.Dont doubt its effective though.
    Yah if your in the UK or AU things from USA are super expensive!!
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    Hey brundel this new product your talking about will it also be available in Aus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFranco View Post
    Hey brundel this new product your talking about will it also be available in Aus.
    Or to ask his q in my words:Will this new product contain any ingredients that can lead to customs problems or will it go through worldwide?I think if its herbal the chances are good
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post

    Or to ask his q in my words:Will this new product contain any ingredients that can lead to customs problems or will it go through worldwide?I think if its herbal the chances are good
    And how long do we still have to wait for it?Are your experiments going well in the testers?
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    Where is this stuff? We've been teased long enough! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Where is this stuff? We've been teased long enough! lol
    Yes we want it now! Come on brundel
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post

    Yes we want it now! Come on brundel
    Not sure when he will release. But it's awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2 View Post
    Not sure when he will release. But it's awesome!
    Well sheeeeeettt this dog is ready to eat! Serve me up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFranco View Post
    Hey brundel this new product your talking about will it also be available in Aus.
    Im unsure about the laws in AU but for now I think so yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Or to ask his q in my words:Will this new product contain any ingredients that can lead to customs problems or will it go through worldwide?I think if its herbal the chances are good
    I think we will be ok. No real "new" dietary ingredients. Mostly a combo of already available stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    And how long do we still have to wait for it?Are your experiments going well in the testers?
    Experiments are going very well.
    We have completed testing and are just waiting on final blood results. Blood test have already been run.
    So....As long as it performs as expected we will go straight to production.
    If, for some reason it is sub par we will tinker till we get it right. Or for example we have reports of gyno in more than one user.
    While this indicates test levels are very high we are concerned with the elevated estro levels.

    For the record each test cap contains 75mg arimistane/erase....so...I can almost with 100% certainty tell you that erase is a placebo. There is 0 research in vitro, vivo, animal, alien, pitri dish or other that indicates arimistane works but its cheap (A bottle of Erase costs about 3$ to make) so we gave it a try.... more will be revealed when we get the BW results.

    Most likely we will either : have to use Formestane which we are trying to NOT use. or not have an AI in the product at all and leave you guys to deal with estro on your own.
    Using formestane will almost double the price of the product so we want to avoid it.

    At any rate. things look good. Be patient. I want to make sure we deliver a product that can:
    Be used for HRT realistically.
    Be used for Test on cycles or PH/Ds etc.
    Be used solo with reliable expectations for most or all users.

    This is a tall order but we can do it I think and without re inventing the wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Experiments are going very well. We have completed testing and are just waiting on final blood results. Blood test have already been run. So....As long as it performs as expected we will go straight to production. If, for some reason it is sub par we will tinker till we get it right. Or for example we have reports of gyno in more than one user. While this indicates test levels are very high we are concerned with the elevated estro levels. For the record each test cap contains 75mg arimistane/erase....so...I can almost with 100% certainty tell you that erase is a placebo. There is 0 research in vitro, vivo, animal, alien, pitri dish or other that indicates arimistane works but its cheap (A bottle of Erase costs about 3$ to make) so we gave it a try.... more will be revealed when we get the BW results. Most likely we will either : have to use Formestane which we are trying to NOT use. or not have an AI in the product at all and leave you guys to deal with estro on your own. Using formestane will almost double the price of the product so we want to avoid it. At any rate. things look good. Be patient. I want to make sure we deliver a product that can: Be used for HRT realistically. Be used for Test on cycles or PH/Ds etc. Be used solo with reliable expectations for most or all users. This is a tall order but we can do it I think and without re inventing the wheel.
    What about as PCT? Are we looking at a SERM replaceable OTC product that actually works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    Experiments are going very well.
    We have completed testing and are just waiting on final blood results. Blood test have already been run.
    So....As long as it performs as expected we will go straight to production.
    If, for some reason it is sub par we will tinker till we get it right. Or for example we have reports of gyno in more than one user.
    While this indicates test levels are very high we are concerned with the elevated estro levels.

    For the record each test cap contains 75mg arimistane/erase....so...I can almost with 100% certainty tell you that erase is a placebo. There is 0 research in vitro, vivo, animal, alien, pitri dish or other that indicates arimistane works but its cheap (A bottle of Erase costs about 3$ to make) so we gave it a try.... more will be revealed when we get the BW results.

    Most likely we will either : have to use Formestane which we are trying to NOT use. or not have an AI in the product at all and leave you guys to deal with estro on your own.
    Using formestane will almost double the price of the product so we want to avoid it.

    At any rate. things look good. Be patient. I want to make sure we deliver a product that can:
    Be used for HRT realistically.
    Be used for Test on cycles or PH/Ds etc.
    Be used solo with reliable expectations for most or all users.

    This is a tall order but we can do it I think and without re inventing the wheel.
    Brundel i think most users have ai's already on hand so no need to make it more expensive by adding one.And in some countries form is banned.Would be good to have a compliant product for worldwide success
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    We already know how well Formeron works, so why not leave it separate so people can make their own decisions on what they want to use- or at all.
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    ^^^^this. I agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    What about as PCT? Are we looking at a SERM replaceable OTC product that actually works?
    Yes sir. No SERM needed. No PCT needed.
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    So far it looks like the AI we used (ERASE) didnt work at all anyways lol so...we will likely remove it.
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    have you checked the new AI (Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid) in the new formulation of Erase Pro?
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    Yes sir its from myrrh resin and in studies was shown to be to toxic to be used as a medication let alone a supplement.
    Secondarily it May or may not work orally and is very mild IF it works at all.

    Considering Erase is for 100% certain a placebo I wouldnt trust them.
    We, Black Lion Research internally tested arimistane/Erase and it failed to alter estrogen at all.
    Seeing as they told everyone Erase was this incredible AI they tested internally ( since there is no other research) and it turned out they were lying...would you take the next one?
    Also...if Erase worked why are they changing it?

    Untrustworthy.
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    do you know the supplement triazole? i think its a better natural ai
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    Has anyone posted floods from triazole ? Didn't they reformulate it? Used it two years ago didn't do **** except aggravate gyno.
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    My e2 on tz was 22 but i didnt have my before levels.
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    So I was looking for a boron supplement for increasing free test. Would Athletic xtremes Mass FX black be a good supplement to add to my trt dose?
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    You could always just go buy straight boron in the vitamin store. Not saying that product wouldn't benefit you, but if you are looking to supplement with boron, buy boron.

    edit- I just read the ingredient profile and I would not do that. It has 2.5mg of boron per serving and other ingredients that you don't want to take in excess every day- like zinc. To get a real benefit from boron, you want to be up in the 10mg range and that requires 3-4 servings of the Mass FX, which would mean you would also be taking 400% the RDA of zinc every day.

    Just get boron and save yourself the $40 price on that stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    You could always just go buy straight boron in the vitamin store. Not saying that product wouldn't benefit you, but if you are looking to supplement with boron, buy boron.

    edit- I just read the ingredient profile and I would not do that. It has 2.5mg of boron per serving and other ingredients that you don't want to take in excess every day- like zinc. To get a real benefit from boron, you want to be up in the 10mg range and that requires 3-4 servings of the Mass FX, which would mean you would also be taking 400% the RDA of zinc every day.

    Just get boron and save yourself the $40 price on that stuff
    Yeah but the problem is to get a Boron mineral supp here in Germany. Mass fx black costs almost the same. I thought the product was good because it contains several ingredients to boost free test. And 4 caps is the recommened dosage. but high dose zinc was shown in research to boost test and free test by 40 percent.
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    As far as zinc, high intake for extended time interferes with copper intake. I am not trying to say this is going to happen, but something to be aware of. If boron is expensive and hard to find, then I guess this could be an option.

    I am probably the wrong person to answer this because I am so burnt out and jaded on these supplement companies throwing a bunch of crap into a proprietary mix that I could puke. Simple, proven ingredients is all I am into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgeier View Post
    So I was looking for a boron supplement for increasing free test. Would Athletic xtremes Mass FX black be a good supplement to add to my trt dose?
    First I dont think thats got boron in it second its like 52$ and third its got terrible reviews so Id go with no and go buy 5$ boron from NOW brand.


    I should just release a free t product.
    I have everything at the lab already lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    As far as zinc, high intake for extended time interferes with copper intake. I am not trying to say this is going to happen, but something to be aware of. If boron is expensive and hard to find, then I guess this could be an option.

    I am probably the wrong person to answer this because I am so burnt out and jaded on these supplement companies throwing a bunch of crap into a proprietary mix that I could puke. Simple, proven ingredients is all I am into.
    ^ this.

    Im gonna get to work on a Free T product.
    While we are working on the test booster I can release a Free T product that I know 100% works.
    I make it for myself and my Free T went up 600% so it works.

    I have everything here.
    SO....new plan. For you guys Im sending tongkat....would you also like to test a FREE T product?
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