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    Hey Brundel, thanks in advance for answering all my questions. I Really do try to do as much research as possible before asking. I just started my 11 spray bridge and will probably use Erase in my PCT because I will already be running a topical during PCT (pump spray-Ursolic acid) and I don't want to lower DHT levels either. So after 4-5 weeks of PCT could I then run Formeron immediately afterwards at two pumps a day for an extended period of time or is "healthier" long term to let my body return to hemostasis first for several weeks before starting? Thanks man and keep up the woodwork. I can't wait to see what other products you have in store for 2013!
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    For starters Ursolic acid WILL lower DHT levels.
    Secondly so will Formeron although at a very small% compared to Ursolic acid.

    Now to your real question: You can start FOrmeron right after the PCT. Here is why.
    At suggested doses Formeron will only increase natty test levels so you dont need to recover afterward.
    If anything it will help your PCT be more successful so go for it.
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    Brundel,
    That is interesting about Ursolic lowering DHT levels, so now I'm thinking I will just run the 11 spray solo through the bridge and hold off on pump spray until PCT. Following PCT I will run Formeron at 2 pumps a day for a while and see how that goes. Maybe after like four or five weeks of running Formeron solo I'll throw some DAA in there too. Should be fun. Thanks!
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    Is there any point to bulking on formeron? I ran hdrol a few months ago, and I'm pretty sure my PCT was bunk as my weight is back down to what it was pre cycle although I'm leaner, I dunno how my strength is holding up as I did hit a PR a couple weeks ago then ended up like 25lbs weaker the next week.

    Anyways while I will be running it to help with the estrogen which I think is still high, would this possibly help me gain back anything that Ive lost? Or am I better off cutting while dosing this and doing a heavy bulk when I'm leaner? Right now I'm pretty lean, but I feel i am at the point where more belly fat may start looking bad.

    Basically asking if I will see any increased effects while bulking at 100mg a day, or should I take the opportunity to cut.
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    Unfortunately the sad truth is while orals give you a quick fix you retain almost 0%
    If you gain 20lbs in 4 weeks know that no more than 4lbs or so can be muscle.
    A Pro bodybuilder may gain 10lbs a year this is with 3-5g total gear volume + slin and HGH etc.
    So......its to be expected you lost everything.

    When you run an Oral....ANY oral, your natural testosterone levels drop. There is a widespread misconception that an oral can replace testosterone on cycle but it cant because it in fact will suppress test levels.

    SO, in order to retain gains you need to do 2 things....well more than 2 but these are important.
    Run testosterone as the base of every cycle.
    Run your oral at the beginning of your cycle. This way you have 4 weeks of a boost from the oral and a further 6-8 weeks to solidify gains.

    If you run an oral solo, once you stop hormone levels from the oral drop and natty test levels are non existent so you wind up where you started or sometimes even less.


    Taking Formeron will begin to bring your natural test levels up which can only help your goals.
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    I suspect that is probably true, honestly would have made better sense pinning, but I couldn't find the gear and figured I was too young at 20 anyway, honestly even a oral was a bad idea, but its already been done.
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    Oral only cycles are very fruitless.
    This is why you see so many guys on here posting who have run 10 oral and PH cycles and they are 160-180lbs.

    I know guys who have run 3-5 injectible + oral cycles with proper PCT who have gained and kept 50+lbs.

    Live and learn. AT 20 the only thing the oral cycle did was fuk up your endocrine system. Your not even fully developed till about 25.

    For now, the Formeron will help get things back on track and I would run it. After that....Id hold off till your about 26 but its your call.
    Lots of guys start in their teens.
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    I started around 20... And wish I wouldn't have, did it cuz I was stupid and didn't know ANYTHInG about what I was doin. Like B said live and learn... Take it from a couple of old guys that's been around the game for a while, hold off.

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    Usealittle and I are both on lifetime hormone replacement.

    Take from that what you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Unfortunately the sad truth is while orals give you a quick fix you retain almost 0%
    If you gain 20lbs in 4 weeks know that no more than 4lbs or so can be muscle.
    A Pro bodybuilder may gain 10lbs a year this is with 3-5g total gear volume + slin and HGH etc.
    So......its to be expected you lost everything.

    When you run an Oral....ANY oral, your natural testosterone levels drop. There is a widespread misconception that an oral can replace testosterone on cycle but it cant because it in fact will suppress test levels.

    SO, in order to retain gains you need to do 2 things....well more than 2 but these are important.
    Run testosterone as the base of every cycle.
    Run your oral at the beginning of your cycle. This way you have 4 weeks of a boost from the oral and a further 6-8 weeks to solidify gains.

    If you run an oral solo, once you stop hormone levels from the oral drop and natty test levels are non existent so you wind up where you started or sometimes even less.

    Taking Formeron will begin to bring your natural test levels up which can only help your goals.
    This is such a BS post. You can easily keep most your gains from an oral ph cycle. The problem with most is they dont follow up with proper pct and a strict training regiment.

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    Mind your business boy. Men are talking.
    Clearly you have not learned your lesson.
    So be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Mind your business boy. Men are talking.
    Clearly you have not learned your lesson.
    So be it.
    What lesson - you dont even know **** about the products you sell.

    Oh and i am here to stay and correct yout rediculous misinformation.
    Would you like me to recap your previous lies to customers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    What lesson - you dont even know **** about the products you sell.

    Oh and i am here to stay and correct yout rediculous misinformation.
    Would you like me to recap your previous lies to customers
    Seriously bro... I thought this issue was done with and in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1

    What lesson - you dont even know **** about the products you sell.

    Oh and i am here to stay and correct yout rediculous misinformation.
    Would you like me to recap your previous lies to customers
    The only way possable to keep the gains from a oral PH cycle is it's takin before the body reaches it own max potintal. And 90% of PH users are not at there full potential yet.

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    recommended dose on a test prop cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakee View Post
    recommended dose on a test prop cycle?
    Depends on the dose of Prop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakee
    recommended dose on a test prop cycle?
    Start your own thread in the chem section and you will be helped there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Depends on the dose of Prop.
    100mg eod
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    Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post

    Start your own thread in the chem section and you will be helped there.

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    He's cool, it's a formeron FAQ

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    How much longer after the cessation of taking formeron does the estrogen receptor down-regulation last?
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    To be honest I have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2

    He's cool, it's a formeron FAQ

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    ???? He's askin about a prop dose isn't he????

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    Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post

    ???? He's askin about a prop dose isn't he????

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    How much formeron to use with it as an AI...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakee View Post

    100mg eod
    I'd say 2 pumps a day would be sufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2

    How much formeron to use with it as an AI...

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    Just got my Formeron from NP and started taking it last night.

    Using it as an AI for my Phera and Ment cycle. Will use it later in my PCT as well.

    How soon can you put on a t-shirt after applying? After application, how long do I have to wait to take another shower?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame84 View Post
    Just got my Formeron from NP and started taking it last night.

    Using it as an AI for my Phera and Ment cycle. Will use it later in my PCT as well.

    How soon can you put on a t-shirt after applying? After application, how long do I have to wait to take another shower?

    shirt can go on within a couple minutes - of that. it dries extremely quick.
    i would say as long as you're not showering within a few hours of the first application you should be fine. id like to hear another opinion on that though.
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    I would apply after a shower personally. When pores are open.
    It will continue to absorb through skin for a while so the longer the better.
    Id say after a few hours you have absorbed most of it and would be safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    I would apply after a shower personally. When pores are open.
    It will continue to absorb through skin for a while so the longer the better.
    Id say after a few hours you have absorbed most of it and would be safe.
    Thanks for the reply. Tonight I did just this, took a shower, applied Formeron, and then went to the gym. Any issue using this pre workout due to sweating during my workout?
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    Nope your good to go.
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    I got my formeron today, do I need to rub it until it is dry, or just until spread over the skin? It is hard to rub it into my shoulders and upper chest with my fingers.
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    Just rub it into your skin. Use your wrists and forearms not hands and fingers to apply because it wont absorb well through the hands.
    Basically everything on your hands is wasted.

    pump a pump onto your wrist.
    Rub it into your chest.
    Done.
    It only takes about 10 sec to dry.
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    Super easy to apply. I even apply straight to chest and rub in with wrists. Walk to get a shirt and it's dry.

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    Brundel, what are your thoughts of application on the top the foot? I think I've seen it somewhere before that you posted that after it dries you can use hand sanitizer to get the remaining crystals to be absorbed. Is this true?
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    The skin on the top of the foot is thin and would work well. Unfortunately most people put shoes and socks on which rubs alot off.
    If you can not wear socks for a while after its a good place.
    I have been running transdermal formestane for like 7-8 years now as my primary AI.
    At the mg/ml Formeron has in the bottle its very gritty and there is a residue of crystals remaining.

    You can apply an Alcohol based hand sanitizer to the application area about 10 min after application and it will help force more through the skin.

    I used to do this with my test cream as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    The skin on the top of the foot is thin and would work well. Unfortunately most people put shoes and socks on which rubs alot off.
    If you can not wear socks for a while after its a good place.
    I have been running transdermal formestane for like 7-8 years now as my primary AI.
    At the mg/ml Formeron has in the bottle its very gritty and there is a residue of crystals remaining.

    You can apply an Alcohol based hand sanitizer to the application area about 10 min after application and it will help force more through the skin.

    I used to do this with my test cream as well.
    Sounds good, thanks for your input. My evening application I will definitely apply to my feet. As for the hand sanitizer ill be picking some up too haha.
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    It works pretty good brother.
    I think your really gonna like the FOrmeron. This is a great product. I have been using it on myself for a long long time.
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