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02-14-2014, 12:15 AM
The problem is it sells super fast....and we are small so we only produce so much at a time.
Currently working on increasing volume.
02-14-2014, 06:39 PM
I tried formeron for the first time today to run alongside osta. It applied easily and quickly.
As previously mentioned and in PM, im definatly keen to try the Tongkat + boro combo. It might help my first comp prep go even better.
02-14-2014, 07:08 PM
I had a physical recently and Ive stated before this Dr. is all about supplements or diet changes before drugs. I told him about Formeron and the results Ive had from it and he immediately knew what Formestane was. My blood work came back really good in all areas and he said he had no problems with the product and he was pleased with the results I was getting from it. BOOM, straight from a open minded DR !!! The only thing he said hewould like to see increase is my free T, so I am going to buy some Boron until U release Ur product. He also upped my TRT dose slightly he also has me on the three to four day injection schedule. If the other products perform like Formeron, Brundel is on his way to being a wealthy man...
02-14-2014, 07:42 PM
The Free test product will be ready shortly. Working on labels.
I have enough tongkat and boron to make approx 100 units currently so I can start soon.
02-14-2014, 08:04 PM
02-14-2014, 11:12 PM
02-14-2014, 11:58 PM
Boron is surprisingly expensive per KG and is relatively hard to source.
I guess there is some issue with obtaining it from China. I got 1kg but I need to find a domestic source.
Im hoping to be able to be done with labels next week. So...tentatively we could have product as early as 10 days.
Itll be a small-approx 100 unit batch until I get more boron but itll last for a bit.
Ill Allow purchase through our website or me personally until NP picks it up. Our products sell well so they would likely pick it up right away.
I think Ill be able to beat the price of the quality Tongkat supps + it will have Boron which is my current fav supp.
02-15-2014, 12:00 AM
There is a new anabolic steroid bill they are trying to pass. If it passes 100% of the PH/DS will be gone.
Thankfully we are working on this new anabolic.
We will be leading the way with compounds they cant call steroids
Believe it or not. I know what Im doing over here
02-15-2014, 01:28 AM
02-15-2014, 03:14 AM
I guess it won't be available in Europe before Apr 2014 so looking forward to reviews by US guys.
Until then I might as well just pick up some boron product to test since I never took it.
Do you or anybody else recommend any other boron product besides NOW Boron or is this good enough?
02-15-2014, 09:02 AM
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02-15-2014, 01:44 PM
THIS ^^^ is something
I lost 15 lbs on my recent cut and my strength is WAY down. 15-20%. I look fantastic but Im certainly weaker.
When Im fat, bloated and estrogenic my strength is incredible.
Dry and lean...not so much.
Keeping in mind Im CLean. No AAS except my TRT.
Drug fueled cuts Id be stronger by the day from all the DHT derivatives.
02-15-2014, 01:45 PM
Keep in mind also that when SHBG goes down estrogen also rises so...perhaps use a low dose of an AI and libido will crank up.
If your using an AI it may be too much.
Estrogen levels are normally the cause of libido issues for me.
02-15-2014, 02:30 PM
02-15-2014, 04:55 PM
These days because I train clean I focus on cycling my goals.
I run a DC program with high cals for mass gaining. DC/Doggcrapp is the #1 for gaining strength and mass.
In short its hit type training like mentzers style. 3 training days per week but you train every bodypart twice in 8 days. So its a 2 day split with 6 unique workouts.
**** makes you strong and the added rest days = more weight gain.
Then I shift to lighter cals and light carbs with high volume training.
Seems to work well for me.
02-15-2014, 06:11 PM
02-15-2014, 06:14 PM
I love DC.
Its the holy grail of bodybuilding. NOTHING has made me stronger which = muscle growth when you eat enough.
Plus its awesome beating your records every day and the training is super abnormal so...its great for vets who have been at it for decades and need a change that actually works.
02-16-2014, 02:31 AM
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02-16-2014, 03:09 PM
Both of our UK distributors are listed/linked on our where to buy page at http://www.blacklionresearch.com
02-16-2014, 03:23 PM
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/262422-mst-ragnorok-elite.html Mst Ragnorok Elite log
02-16-2014, 03:35 PM
That is essentially what I am doing. I read up on that years ago and it quickly became one of my favorite routines because we all love the ones we see the most benefit from. The main difference is that I do 4 sets instead of the 2-3, and I skip the chest arms hypertrophy day. This is 4 day routine for me, but the other aspects of PHAT are all in place.
Plus, it is very effective for me. I train MMA and do endurance type events in the summer (occasional rec strongman, rugby, lots of mtn biking). I need strength and endurance to stay effective against these young dudes.
02-16-2014, 03:37 PM
02-16-2014, 03:38 PM
I could, but I prefer to keep volume of that level to a separate routine. When I get into the 12+ range, it robs me of strength in the low, heavy days.
02-17-2014, 02:29 AM
You could convince your UK merchants to offer stack of Formeron & free test product since buying from UK has actually became more expensive for us in Europe than ordering straight from USA such as nutraplanet.
02-17-2014, 06:40 AM
02-17-2014, 12:38 PM
Hey brundel, a few more questions for you! Thanks for the help in advance. Ok - how long do you wait to put on a shirt after application? It seems to dry almost immedietly, besides the little crystally stuff. Can i just brush that stuff off after a few minutes when its dry? Also, i wanted to do the 2 pumps a day for part of pct but i press down on the pump slowly like you say and it seems to me like a crapload comes out. Its like at least 2 quarter size piles i put on the inside of my forearm and then spread around chest neck clavicles etc. does that seem like how much should come out with one pump. I dont wanna be going over 2 pumps worth but the quarter size piles is the only way i can think of describing the amount. I dont know if that makes any sense, but the amount that comes out is enough to cover my upper chest, both shoulders, neck, and both inner forearms. Thanks brother!
02-17-2014, 02:05 PM
UNfortunately when you take it nothing happens lol.
WIth the Boron you may not actually FEEL anything.
Even on some anabolic steroid stacks you dont really FEEL it. You just start getting stronger and recovering faster. If your libido is already good you wont notice much but the extra horsepower and anabolic potential will be there so ...take advantage of it by eating a bit more and progressively increasing weight at the gym. THings will happen.
02-17-2014, 02:07 PM
We just want time for everything on the skin that can pass through to pass through. THe remaining crystals ID add some alcohol based hand sanitizer after 5-10 min. Wait for it to dry-1 min then shirt up.
The volume of the pump is normal.
02-17-2014, 02:22 PM