- 01-24-2014, 03:41 PM
- 01-25-2014, 04:44 PM
- 01-26-2014, 08:39 AM
Never knew this about boron. What's the preferred manufacturer of this supplement. Can anybody recommend anybody?
01-26-2014, 01:22 PM
01-26-2014, 01:55 PM
01-26-2014, 02:26 PM
So I have been using the tongkat for a little over a week now.I take 250mgs on an empty stomach in the morning.This is what I am noticing
1. It provides a increase in energy and it seems to reduce my fatigue & stress levels.
2. An increase in libido and stamina. It seems to give me more sexual stamina.
3. Testicular fullness.This could be due to an increase in test levels.
4. No heart rate increase.
Without getting blood work I do not know if the Tongkat has increased my total or free test levels.
01-26-2014, 04:00 PM
01-26-2014, 04:24 PM
Currently i use boron citrate which is also approx 10%.
No need for 100mg. Im not sure but at some point it will likely become toxic as well.
01-26-2014, 04:26 PM
The new version however i think will shine. Ill send you some of the new to compare.
The batch you have has nmda in it.
On a side note there is a new study out. They tested muscle warfare nmda. High doses. Nothing happend. 0 results.
01-26-2014, 04:39 PM
01-26-2014, 04:51 PM
01-26-2014, 05:05 PM
01-26-2014, 05:07 PM
01-26-2014, 05:16 PM
Since its a prop blend there may be .0000000001mg NMDA in it.
Here is an interesting newer NMDA study supporting it does work. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24439162
I cant wait to see what you think.
ALL of the other testers gained significant weight on the caps I gave you. LH gained 7lbs I think.
My training partner used it post cycle and retained 100% of the 20lbs he gained on cycle!!!
01-26-2014, 05:32 PM
01-26-2014, 07:16 PM
01-26-2014, 08:08 PM
01-27-2014, 08:47 PM
My shipment of Formeron came in a few days ago. I'm as hungry, if not more, as I was on cycle. I literally can't get full; is this normal?
01-27-2014, 10:25 PM
01-28-2014, 09:58 AM
Brundel I tried sending you a PM but it didn't let me. But do you think Formeron would be a good stack with alpha mass and alpha test? and when will it be in stock anywhere! lol
01-28-2014, 12:15 PM
Just an update with the tongkats. I continue to notice increased energy an work capacity. This must have some very strong adaptogen qualities.
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01-28-2014, 02:22 PM
01-28-2014, 02:52 PM
My libido Is strong as hell. I usually don't care about sex for about 2 weeks post ejac. I've fired off 3 times in the last 3 days. My wife can't keep up. This is cool.
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01-28-2014, 06:24 PM
01-28-2014, 06:35 PM
Your on a TON of heavy drugs...if this is happening because of DAA stop the DAA right now. Its likely not doing anything positive for you anyways.
If, your estro is low enough that your joints hurt and your running letro AND Formeron we can semi rule out estro as the cause. Ultimately bloodwork is the only way to know for certain. Generally When I start an AI to reduce gyno symptoms it takes about a week to really notice it helping. This is because AI's dont directly lower estrogen they prevent its production so it takes time for estro to drop.
If its prolactin and prami isnt helping I dont see how Prolactrone is gonna fix it either. Perhaps the Prami is bunk?
How is libido? This is often a good gauge of where estro and PRL are. If they are elevated libido will tank out.
01-28-2014, 06:36 PM
01-28-2014, 07:00 PM
01-28-2014, 07:07 PM
Nolva never worked for any of this. When I took epistane and got sides nolva that I had used as had worked when I took dbol as a kickstart with it was not working with epistane. That's why I think this is all prolactin.
Hope that makes sense
01-28-2014, 07:10 PM
Epi never caused prolactin issues with me and I'm super sensitive to prl and estro. DAA did cause prolactin issues with me and not sure how or why
01-28-2014, 07:35 PM
01-28-2014, 07:37 PM
01-28-2014, 07:47 PM
I have the prolactrone on te way. Only thing is I wasn't on DAA when I was on epi, and nolva that I used and worked with dbol dint work with epi. Ive heard it can mess with prolactin but who knows with PHs. I'll try the prolactrone and hope that +letro+formeron will do some damage to this. The prami gave me weird dreams. Only way I can describe it is imagine your heart racingc except your head is racing when you dream.
When I eventually come off letro how long should I run formeron? It's not toxic in any way right so I could pretty much run it year round?
Also I've read a couple threads saying dht rapes gyno. Would something like masteron only with a dht oral be of benefit next cycle if there's still some lumps left?
01-28-2014, 10:28 PM
DHT rapes estro gyno but causes a host of side effect on it own so...AI is better.
When running wet compounds I would always include some masteron. I hardly ever used an AI at doses of test up to 2000mg.
01-28-2014, 11:13 PM
01-29-2014, 12:00 AM
I would recommend not running anadrol and var together. Var is LESS toxic than some but its still liver toxic and anadrol is HIGHLY toxic.
Plus....anadrol is plenty by itself.
I would extend the cycle to 10 weeks. Run anadrol 1-4 take a 2 week break and liver cleanse then run the var the last 4 weeks. Just my 2c.
Sometimes its hard to know what your really taking as 80+% of the drugs out there are counterfeit or fake or bunk altogether.
Lots of times its underdosed or totally fake so its hard to judge unless you have a script for it.
I took prescription nolva recently for a gyno lump that has developed. 10mg ed for a month and nothing happened.
Until I attacked it with high dose Formeron which did the trick. I know nolva works but it can take a long time to do the job.
01-29-2014, 12:09 AM
Nolva never worked for me. Formeron and exemestane worked... not together of course. The only time I took epi was on test and I bloated like a fish and aggravated gyno. Dropped it after 4 days. Two days later I was back to normal. Never had an issue getting my gyno down though.
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01-29-2014, 01:16 AM
01-29-2014, 02:08 AM
When do Formeron users typically see results in libido if they see any? Would this become more pronounced within the 6 day mark? I keep thinking I'm down for a solo night of reading but my girlfriend keeps coming over super late lol.
01-29-2014, 02:27 AM
01-29-2014, 02:35 AM