FORMERON FAQ

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by horizons View Post
    People will say no but it definitely does

    Not like it's a bad thing
    For sure. I actually want it to raise it.

  2. FORMERON FAQ


    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzeek View Post
    Does what? Not increase DHT. It blocks the conversion to it; thus REDUCING it. Try these search keywords for example into google; formestane and DHT, 4-androstenediol vs dehydrotestosterone, etc etc....
    Read my earlier posts.

    It has very light DHT inhibiting value but that is overturned by the reduction in estrogen and increased test. Any anti estrogen is going to cause DHT spikes. It's the way our hormone system is made.

    And especially because formeron is the only AI to have anabolic and androgenic properties on top of the estrogen reduction.

    There was a study done even with propecia (on canines tough) and formestane and DHT increased 10 fold.

    It increases DHT, androgens, anabolic activity, increases test and reduces estrogen while your at it. It's a fantastic product. The DHT inhibiting is negligible due to the above reason and only is below mild properties anyways.

    It destroyed my friends hair. Just one sign of high DHT. Even though it's rare it can happen.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    At higher doses, does Formeron increase DHT? I ask because I was concerned about shutting down e2 too much since 2 pumps is really nice for drying out and taking any edge off of TRT, but I found that 3-4 pumps makes my libido skyrocket and I generally feel really positive- even more than normal on TRT.
    Formeron can increase test which can in turn become dht. Its not enough to be concerned with though. Dht isnt the demon people think it is.
    Im prone to male pattern baldness and i increase dht on purpose all the time. Its awesome for libido and strength and well being.

    More likely though is estro is dropping which for most increases libido up to a point.
    BLACK LION RESEARCH Take your own path-

  4. Hey brundel I've been looking into this for a while and actually sent you a pm on a different forum only to realise you haven't been on it for over a year, anyway I live in Australia and I've tried buying a bottle from your uk distributors website but there having trouble with the checkout, just wondering if you could recommend which site would be best to use in my situation, thanks

  5. In australia only probuild has formeron.
    BLACK LION RESEARCH Take your own path-
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  6. Thanks brundel, ordered today

  7. Holy crap! My e2 went from the mid-high 20's on my last lab to 15.9 after steadily using 2-3 pumps of Formeron.

    Day 4 after last injection of 60mg:
    Total test 592 range 250-1150
    Free test 16.5 range 8.9-30
    e2 15.9 don't know the range

    I guess this may explain my big increase in libido.

  8. I would expect a bigger drop but this isnt bad.
    WHere are you applying?

    Absorption is very good if you use upper chest, neck, delts area and apply with your wrists.
    BLACK LION RESEARCH Take your own path-

  9. Hey man I've just started my Formeron gunna stay at 2 pumps a day and see how it goes, also about to start Prolactrone once it comes, I've also been taking 25mg Proviron a day, my question is should I drop the proviron now that I'm using formeron?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    I would expect a bigger drop but this isnt bad.
    WHere are you applying?

    Absorption is very good if you use upper chest, neck, delts area and apply with your wrists.
    Upper chest and thighs. I would not want a bigger drop because I still want some estrogen and I felt good in the 20s. I think that 4 pumps would put me at about 10 and that would be too low.

  11. Does anyone know if its true or not blr is coming out with a oral forneron? Been hearing rumours that guy brundel got something up his sleeve. Lol

  12. Head to the supplement forums and look for black lion, there's a thread there called questions and answers, ask away. He's been giving updates on the new product there

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Cjg View Post
    Does anyone know if its true or not blr is coming out with a oral forneron? Been hearing rumours that guy brundel got something up his sleeve. Lol
    We have been considering oral Formeron for some time.
    Contrary to popular belief oral formestane is very good. THe dose has to be right though. Several companies have released oral form in doses of 25mg or so which is literally worthless unless you eat 10 -20 caps per day so the bottle lasts 3 days lol.

    At this point I am unsure. We are working on the test product and a couple others. You would be surprised though.....MANY of the supplements sold these days dont work at all. I mean no action or negative action. This I know because we have been running tests and bloodwork for the last couple years on ingredients to use in our new products and most times the result is they dont do anything orally. So we keep searching because at the end of the day I wont make a product unless I can prove it works. Thus far...its been elusive. Most companies just make products based upon hype or pubmed abstracts...the issue with this is almost never does it translate into real world results. We are working hard on the next generation of BLR products though and I promise you one thing....if you take our products you can trust it to perform as intended knowing that we tested it extensively prior to release.
    BLACK LION RESEARCH Take your own path-

  14. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    We have been considering oral Formeron for some time. Contrary to popular belief oral formestane is very good. THe dose has to be right though. Several companies have released oral form in doses of 25mg or so which is literally worthless unless you eat 10 -20 caps per day so the bottle lasts 3 days lol. At this point I am unsure. We are working on the test product and a couple others. You would be surprised though.....MANY of the supplements sold these days dont work at all. I mean no action or negative action. This I know because we have been running tests and bloodwork for the last couple years on ingredients to use in our new products and most times the result is they dont do anything orally. So we keep searching because at the end of the day I wont make a product unless I can prove it works. Thus far...its been elusive. Most companies just make products based upon hype or pubmed abstracts...the issue with this is almost never does it translate into real world results. We are working hard on the next generation of BLR products though and I promise you one thing....if you take our products you can trust it to perform as intended knowing that we tested it extensively prior to release.
    Yea and these companies that make oral form add 75 mg arimistane per serving so that you can't dose any higher

  15. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    We have been considering oral Formeron for some time.
    Contrary to popular belief oral formestane is very good. THe dose has to be right though. Several companies have released oral form in doses of 25mg or so which is literally worthless unless you eat 10 -20 caps per day so the bottle lasts 3 days lol.

    At this point I am unsure. We are working on the test product and a couple others. You would be surprised though.....MANY of the supplements sold these days dont work at all. I mean no action or negative action. This I know because we have been running tests and bloodwork for the last couple years on ingredients to use in our new products and most times the result is they dont do anything orally. So we keep searching because at the end of the day I wont make a product unless I can prove it works. Thus far...its been elusive. Most companies just make products based upon hype or pubmed abstracts...the issue with this is almost never does it translate into real world results. We are working hard on the next generation of BLR products though and I promise you one thing....if you take our products you can trust it to perform as intended knowing that we tested it extensively prior to release.
    Little off topic but could you list a few ingredients that you tested that you have found don't work at all in oral form? Very interested.

  16. Anacyclus p.?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Yea and these companies that make oral form add 75 mg arimistane per serving so that you can't dose any higher
    For the record we tested arimistane and at 75mg it failed to alter estrogen levels even 1 point. IN fact in increased in 4 out of 5 users and stayed stationary in the fifth.
    BLACK LION RESEARCH Take your own path-

  18. Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    Little off topic but could you list a few ingredients that you tested that you have found don't work at all in oral form? Very interested.
    ONce we get our next line of products out Ill put out a list with the test results. Ill get backlash of course because it will negatively effect a TON of companies but the truth is the truth.
    Fenugreek and its respective saponins.
    tribulus
    dioscin
    mangosteen/mangostin...this actually worked but the dose needed is so high it would cost you the buyer about 10$ a day to use it with 30% aromatase inhibition lol.

    this is a good start .
    BLACK LION RESEARCH Take your own path-

  19. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    ONce we get our next line of products out Ill put out a list with the test results. Ill get backlash of course because it will negatively effect a TON of companies but the truth is the truth.
    Fenugreek and its respective saponins.
    tribulus
    dioscin
    mangosteen/mangostin...this actually worked but the dose needed is so high it would cost you the buyer about 10$ a day to use it with 30% aromatase inhibition lol.

    this is a good start .
    I prefer truth. I've spent enough money on underdosed ineffective products.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    I prefer truth. I've spent enough money on underdosed ineffective products.
    I wish every supp company had to prove their products worked before they could release them. 90% of supplement companies would go out of business.

    When I started bodybuilding decades ago I started just like everyone else...
    I bought every single new product promising 20lbs and 2 inches on your arms... Massive gains...super pumps...etc etc.
    Product after product after product I was disappointed. I dont think I can recall even one that worked out of literally a hundred products.

    You have my word on this....I do my very best to ensure our products work so when you use them you are satisfied with the result.
    Our products were all originally designed to be used by me personally.
    I had acne....acnedren
    I had prolactin issues...prolactrone
    I used tons of test....Formeron to combat estro. I used all of them LONG before they became publicly available and loads of guys tested them including a handful of IFBB pro bodybuilders. One even used Formeron as his primary AI during the contest prep that won him his pro card!

    Im itching to bring new products out to you guys. Its not about money...Ive spent personally tens of thousands of dollars now in testing and all have failed to deliver so....Im basically spending money instead of making it because I refuse to sell you garbage supps.

    Ill tell you guys what...aside from the test booster. What products do you guys want to see. We can develop ANYTHING.
    Ive been considering a pre workout supp. I have some ingredient ideas that could make it pretty much dominate.
    BLACK LION RESEARCH Take your own path-

  21. Brundel i would be interested in a memory and concentration boosting product that really can be felt.I know its a hard task but could be interested not only for bblers.

  22. What about your own version of melanotan ll, maybe into a tablet or transdermal

  23. I'm a noot guy, so any additional competition in the racetam department is always wlecome.

    Obviously, your company wants to open doors for as many new customers as possible and grow, but I think that even if you never made another product than Formeron, you'd be successful. I wish I'd see more threads on it and not on Erase because people would be shocked at actually buying a product that works like advertised.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by brundel

    I wish every supp company had to prove their products worked before they could release them. 90% of supplement companies would go out of business.

    When I started bodybuilding decades ago I started just like everyone else...
    I bought every single new product promising 20lbs and 2 inches on your arms... Massive gains...super pumps...etc etc.
    Product after product after product I was disappointed. I dont think I can recall even one that worked out of literally a hundred products.

    You have my word on this....I do my very best to ensure our products work so when you use them you are satisfied with the result.
    Our products were all originally designed to be used by me personally.
    I had acne....acnedren
    I had prolactin issues...prolactrone
    I used tons of test....Formeron to combat estro. I used all of them LONG before they became publicly available and loads of guys tested them including a handful of IFBB pro bodybuilders. One even used Formeron as his primary AI during the contest prep that won him his pro card!

    Im itching to bring new products out to you guys. Its not about money...Ive spent personally tens of thousands of dollars now in testing and all have failed to deliver so....Im basically spending money instead of making it because I refuse to sell you garbage supps.

    Ill tell you guys what...aside from the test booster. What products do you guys want to see. We can develop ANYTHING.
    Ive been considering a pre workout supp. I have some ingredient ideas that could make it pretty much dominate.
    Would definitely be down with a Pre workout from you guys. As long as it doesn't have f$&kin yohimbe.
    Athletic Xtreme Team REP
    http://www.AthleticX.net/
    AXHOLE BY NATURE

  25. Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post

    Would definitely be down with a Pre workout from you guys. As long as it doesn't have f$&kin yohimbe.
    I feel ya. Now that dmaa is out of a lot they substitute it with yohimbie. Or so it seems. Stuff makes me feel worse than anything I've taken.
    BLACK LION RESEARCH
    Supplements for bodybuilders
    Http://www.blacklionresearch.com
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