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If you have letro and it really is letro you wont need both letro and Formeron. Youll be miserable.
Run the letro till symptoms subside or lack of motivation and libido become intolerable. At this point just stop Letro and jump on the Formeron.
Once letro has dropped estro even 1 pump Formeron will be plenty to keep estro at bay so long as no other offending compounds are in use.
I dont think you need prami unless you believe its prolactin related.
01-18-2014, 10:52 PM
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01-19-2014, 01:13 PM
Took 250 mgs of Tongkat this morning and experienced the nice energy without the heart race & BP increase. I think 250mg is the sweet spot.
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01-19-2014, 02:40 PM
147/113. Considering I have a pacemaker in my chest this is bad.
Second reading was 137/57 So Im thinking the bottom reading is off due to cuff not fitting but the 147 is still bad. Im on beta blockers and blood pressure medications. I cant imagine what it would do to someone not on medications. Do any of you guys have blood pressure cuffs?
If so please take a few readings during the day to get an average.
01-19-2014, 02:43 PM
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Ive been looking at Ashwaghanda. Looks like there are some promising studies regarding its ability to elevate LH and T while concurrently lowering PRL and FSH.
01-19-2014, 03:46 PM
01-19-2014, 05:08 PM
Why is the tongkat causing such high bp rates? I'd be interested to know how this works.
01-19-2014, 05:09 PM
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01-19-2014, 05:11 PM
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We may just leave the SERM out for expense reasons. Probably we will make a SERM and a test product although they are similar.
Certain portions of tongkat show promise as SERMS anyways so this may be how it elevates T levels.
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Anabeta didn't do diddly squat for me either.Originally Posted by horizons
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01-19-2014, 06:56 PM
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Yah tons of things and lots of supplements cause an increase in blood pressure.
Pretty much every stimulant is vasoconstrictive so BP goes up. Caffeine for example raises blood pressure considerably but is considered extremely safe.
Its just something to note and be aware of.
With regards to anabeta, I dont know whats in it but the whole point of giving you guys test batches of our ingredients is to ensure we dont make a product that doesnt work.
Probably we will do the T booster
Maybe a separate Serm
Intra workout maybe.-this is because over the last few years I have been perfecting mine and my personal brews have all succeeded thus far
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I couldnt figure it out, so I stopped the anabeta and it went down 30 points in under 24 hours. Libido came back immediately
Just a random idea on a decent pre workout blend!
High quality LCLT
Phenylracetam (demiurge) or a noop blend
A new stim like AMP- citrate
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