was a great fight card finally, so many let downs in the past that i stopped buying them. hopefully they start making monster cards like they did for ufc 100.
PS that standing guillotine, with your hands not closed, wow, JBJ is strong.
It pains me to write the following, but UFC 140 may have given us the greatest submission in mixed martial arts history. In terms of the caliber of fighters involved, the comeback nature of the submission and the defiant holding on until the bitter end, can you think of a better one?
Whatever your opinion on the foregoing, this kimura (or ude garami/double wristlock) submission HAS to be analyzed and the set-up explained so that we can fully appreciate the violent beauty of this UFC 140 Submission of the Night . Time to make myself useful and launch into the table-setting.
In one instant, we saw Frank Mir dazed and tilting severely to the left as several stiff punches from Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira thudded into his skull. Almost in the next instant, we saw Mir sprawling atop Big Nog with a kimura that seemingly appeared out of nowhere. Mir ruthlessly cranked the submission until the visible snap of the humerus occurred, forcing Herb Dean to immediately step in and probably thousands of viewers to visibly recoil.
If we can get over the initial burst of discomfort from the actual snap, we can have a productive discussion about how exactly a kimura works and why it worked so well in this particular case. The basic mechanics to operate this specific submission have been known for quite a while. Catch as catch can wrestlers call this the double wristlock. Judokas call it the reverse ude garami. Brazilian jiu jitsu players mostly call this submission the "kimura", after Masahiko Kimura famously snapped multiple bones in Helio Gracie's arm in a challenge match held in 1951. The various grappling arts know of this submission and how it forces a near-Hobson's choice of "tap or snap" upon the person within the hold by exerting extreme torque on the upper arm.
Join me after the jump for a breakdown of how exactly Mir came back from the near shores of unconsciousness to submitting one of the better heavyweight grapplers in mixed martial arts history.
After wobbling and dropping Mir with several strong blows, Big Nog sprawled atop his nearly motionless opponent. For whatever reasons, Nog's take upon the gestalt of the fight led him to go for an arm-in guillotine. The combination of the spatial placement of both fighters, the timing and the physical sensations of Mir's motions led Nogueira to trust his instincts and seize upon the guillotine as his preferred fight ending action over the continued sprawling and flinging of punches to Mir's noggin. Unfortunately, the submission attempt led to an improbable sweep and a truly surprising finish.
Here, we see Nogueira shift from punching Mir to going for the guillotine. Mir probably is not in full control of his faculties at this point, yet when Nogueira goes for the guillotine, Mir instinctively rolls over his right shoulder and flops to his right side. Yes, this gives Big Nog the top position and a clear path to mount, but it also alleviates some of the discomfort and pressure upon the carotids and windpipe that the guillotine creates. Immediately, Mir begins to separate himself from Nogueira's hips and we see how Nog continues to go after the choke.
After a brief flirtation with pulling some kind of crazy half guard, Mir wises up and uses his right hand to push Nog's right hip away from him. Once Nog is perpendicular to Mir (and thus less able to apply that specific guillotine choke), Mir rocks backwards and lifts Nogueira's right leg off the ground. Due to Nog's dogged pursuit of the guillotine, his center of gravity is too far off of Mir to resist the sweep. Nog gets spun like a dreidel, yet in the classic "make lemonade out of lemons" style of his grappling, he refuses to concede side control and shifts himself into a wrestling sit out.
The wrestling-style sit out allows a fighter to use the slightly askew center of gravity of the opponent on top to sprawl sitting up towards one particular side - and potentially offers avenues to rear mount or at least a bodylock on a turned away opponent. This particular sit out is nicely timed and showcases the more recent vintage of grappling the Nogueira brothers now train. However, Big Nog leaves his right arm down low, between Mir's legs. The left hand is controlling Mir's right hand nicely and the body is sprawled out in good fashion. The only weak link is that right hand. It should be up around Mir's waist and tight to the body.
Instead, Big Nog leaves the arm out there and Mir latches on to it from an inferior position. From the brief rearranging of positions here, you can tell that Big Nog wanted to take the back from here or to prevent the shift into side control. Nogueira lifts the left leg - which is a miscalculation, as it allows the right leg to be lifted up and moved over onto the proper side of Nogueira to truly being exerting in terms of sports news and reporting. Mir has backed his way into side control and Big Nog does not expect him to be where he is or to possess the static strength he does.
Once that bump into side control is achieved, Mir has the correct angles to get Big Nog's arm into the right positions. He has his left hand pinning Nogueira's right wrist to the ground and his right hand snaking underneath Big Nog's upper arm and locked onto his own left wrist. This is the classic figure four double wristlock that judokas call the reverse ude garami and BJJ players the "kimura". The submission is essentially set now. Mir steps over the head - or at least tries to - and smashes his chest downwards as Nog looks like he knows exactly what is coming and wants no part of it. At this point, Frank's massive static strength is starting to take over. Big Nog's right arm is being dragged into the classic right angle required for the reverse ude garami. The pressure of Mir's bodyweight is considerable, yet the location of his body allows Nogueira to upend him in an attempt to alleviate the increasing torque on the arm. Big Nog wants to straighten that arm out and shake loose from the double wristlocks grips, but it does not work.
Mir keeps his grips tightly secured and continues to extend the arm behind Nogueira's back. Even when Big Nog is briefly on top, the torque of the kimura is sufficient that the only thing Big Nog can do to not tap out right there and then is to continue rolling and hope something shakes loose. No such luck happened. Once atop Big Nog again, Mir drags the right wrist along the ground and pulls the entire arm towards him. Within a second, that arm is bending in a way that the human body cannot tolerate and SNAP!
Big Nog tapped, but it was too late. His humerus had been cleanly fractured and Frank Mir had his third career technical submission victory. This was far nastier than the armbar that snapped Tim Sylvia's forearm bones and much more difficult than the guillotine that put Cheick Kongo to sleep. This was legendary, as much as I hate to say it. Frank Mir tapped out Minotauro in brutal and memorable fashion.
Perhaps this kimura used quite a bit more of brute strength than most submissions we are used to seeing within mixed martial arts. Perhaps Francisco Santos Mir is not quite the lovable icon that Big Nog is. But you should be respecting his ability to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat through some of the most singularly successful desperation comebacks through submission that we have ever seen.
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I've made no bones about the fact that I don't care for Jon Jones' personality. Something about him rubs me the wrong way.
Until the bell rings and he starts to fight.
At UFC 140, Jon Jones put his amazing talent on display again when he faced Lyoto Machida.
Machida didn't make things easy on Jones. In fact, Lyoto won the first round using his solid game of movement and opportunistic striking from distance. Jon went back to his corner and actually looked a bit confused and even worried sitting on the stool between rounds. But in the second round, something clicked. Jones stopped being so willing to stay on the outside, reach not being a huge asset against Machida, and took to the inside. In the clinch, Jones owned Machida and it became quickly clear that he knew it. Once he got a takedown and landed an elbow that opened up Machida's head you could see Jones get a surge of confidence (something he confirmed at the post-fight presser).
The choke finish by Jones seemed almost inevitable once Machida was cut and Jones came on strong.
In the aftermath of the fight I had to sit back and really think about it before typing this. But, I'm ready to call Jon Jones the best fighter in the world. I have trouble thinking of any fighter at 205 who can give him trouble. I'm a big fan of Rashad Evans, but I find it hard to believe that Rashad could stop Jones or win 3 of 5 rounds. The idea of Anderson Silva being able to withstand the attack of the much bigger Jones just doesn't click for me either.
Jonathan Snowden touched on this over at MMA Nation:
Jones looks completely unstoppable against the top fighters in the world. He's never looked like Silva did underneath Chael Sonnen before a miracle win rescued his title. There is no way a fighter like Jake Shields intimidates Jones the way the former Strikeforce star scared St. Pierre.Jones is the one person in MMA who I can't see losing right now. That isn't to say he's unbeatable, no one in MMA has that claim. Simply that Jones should be a sizable favorite against anyone who isn't a top heavyweight (and maybe even then). I feel like I'm in full hyperbole mode, but what we saw last night was a special fighter and one of the most amazing talents the sport has ever seen. And I'm sold on him as the best fighter in the world.
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The UFC already has one event planned for Brazil in 2012, as UFC 142 will take place on January 14 from Rio de Janeiro.Now, word of a May show in Brazil has been all-but confirmed by UFC president Dana White, who talked about the event at the UFC 140: Jones vs. Machida post-event press conference Saturday night.
White didn’t have much to say in regards to where the card might take place, but said the UFC is looking at holding the fights in a stadium arena, much like the Rogers Centre in Canada did in April of this year.
“How many events are we going to do in Brazil next year? Right now, what I know, we’ve got two coming up,” White said. “We’re gonna do Rio and probably another one in May.”
UFC middleweight champ Anderson Silva is currently on the sidelines with a shoulder injury, but has mentioned a possible return in late spring or early summer – putting him on schedule for the May Brazilian show. Heavyweight king Junior dos Santos has also mentioned an interest in fighting in front of his countrymen this summer. White also said he is flying to Brazil on Monday to begin casting on a version of The
Ultimate Fighter in Brazil.
UFC 142 will feature featherweight phenom Jose Aldo defending his divisional title against undefeated grappler Chad Mendes with other bouts including Sam Stout vs. Thiago Tavares and Anthony Johnson vs. Vitor Belfort.
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TORONTO – Former UFC champions and MMA legends Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (33-7-1 MMA, 4-3 UFC) and Tito Ortiz (16-10-1 MMA, 15-10-1 UFC) may have reached the end of the line.
Nogueira and Ortiz were each transferred to a Toronto-area hospital following losses to Frank Mir and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, respectively, on the main card of Saturday night's UFC 140 event, and UFC president Dana White admitted each of them may have fought for the final time in the octagon.
Following the evening's post-event press conference, which took place at Air Canada Centre, White said he would have to talk with each fighter individually, but he wasn't willing to guarantee a UFC return for either athlete.
As of Saturday night, Ortiz was being inspected for potentially fractured ribs. The man formerly known as the "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" opened up aggressively in his fight, but a well-placed knee to the body sent Ortiz crashing to the ground, and "Lil Nog" pounded away until he earned the stoppage at the 3:15 mark of the first round. Ortiz writhed in pain for several moments before finally rising to his feet.
"Tito came out swinging," White said of the performance. "Tito went after it in the beginning of the first round, and he got caught to the body.
"He's in the hospital … with something. He could have a fractured or broken rib. Those things take a long time to recover from. We'll see."
White previously told Ortiz, who is now 1-6-1 in his past eight fights, that it was time to hang 'em up following an October 2010 loss to Matt Hamill. However, Ortiz pleaded his way into one more fight and used the opportunity to shock Ryan Bader in a first-round submission win. Ortiz has since dropped back-to-back fights.
White didn't seem exactly optimistic about another fight for Ortiz, who has expressed interest in a May trilogy bout with Forrest Griffin. However, he did say he would talk to "The People's Champ" before making a final decision.
"I honestly don't know," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "You know, I'm always looking for guys' health. It's not like Tito got viciously knocked out tonight. He got hurt to the body. We'll see what happens.
"I don't know. I've got to talk with Tito. We'll see."
"Big Nog's" last stand?
Meanwhile, Rodrigo Nogueira suffered a broken arm in his dramatic co-main event with Mir after refusing to tap to a deep kimura. UFC officials tweeted a picture of Nogueira's X-ray, revealing the fractured appendage, and White said there may be additional shoulder and elbow damage. Nogueira will on Sunday fly to Los Angeles to seek surgical repair.
White also discussed a potential retirement with the 35-year-old Nogueira following his February 2010 loss to Cain Velasquez. Nogueira also made good on his reprieve, scoring a surprising knockout win over Brendan Schaub at UFC 134.
"The last time, I said after he got knocked out that 'Big Nog' should look at (retiring)," White said. "He got mad at me. He got all bummed out. Then he came out and pulled off that win with Schaub.
"'Big Nog' looked great tonight until that submission."
Indeed, he did, rocking Mir before ultimately falling victim to the nasty finishing hold. But with Nogueira now on the shelf for what looks like a significant amount of time, White said he hopes the legendary Brazilian will at least consider calling an end to a career that dates back to 1999 and includes more than 40 fights – many of them all-out wars with fellow superstars Josh Barnett, Fedor Emelianenko, Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic and Bob Sapp, among others.
"You've got to look at a guy's entire career, not just how it's ending," White said. "'Big Nog' has been in wars. I was at the PRIDE fight when he fought Mirko 'Cro Cop.' 'Cro Cop' was just blasting him with kicks to the body and shots to the head. Then he ends up pulling off that submission win in the second round. He's had a career where he's been through wars.
"'Big Nog' is a nice guy, and he's a guy whom I respect. I know they get pissed off at me when I say this stuff, but again, it doesn't matter. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I'm the one that makes these decisions. I'm going to have to sit down and talk to him. I don't want to see him get hurt – or anybody else."
If Nogueira is done, he would leave with an octagon record of 4-3, including a February 2008 win over Tim Sylvia to become the UFC's interim heavyweight champion, a title he would promptly lose to Mir in the pair's first meeting. His accomplishments in PRIDE would qualify Nogueira as a certain Hall of Famer if one existed for the sport. Currently, the UFC only supports a UFC Hall of Fame, and "Big Nog" would have trouble earning a spot based solely on his work in the octagon.
Tito Ortiz, UFC Hall of Famer?
Meanwhile, Ortiz has fought all but one of his career contests in the UFC, earning him the distinction of holding more fights in the octagon than any other competitor in history. The former UFC light heavyweight champion often clashed with White, and often very publicly, but the UFC boss said Ortiz's accomplishments have likely earned him a place in the promotion's Hall of Fame.
"Tito has a significant place in the history of this sport, whether he and I had (differences or not)," White said. "When you really think about it, the battle between Tito and I [as well as] Chuck (Liddell) and I and Tito really did help build this thing in the beginning. It was a big story. You had people who love Tito and hated me and were on my side and didn't like Tito. It was a pretty big real storyline that happened.
"I can be honest now and tell you, me and Tito at our absolute worst, when things were just as nasty as nasty could be behind the scenes was when he fought Lyoto Machida. That was probably one of the craziest times in my entire career since I've been here."
It was prior to that UFC 84 clash that Ortiz infamously came to the weigh-ins with a T-shirt that read "Dana is my bitch!" The two also took part in a tense post-event press conference following Ortiz's decision loss to Lyoto Machida.
"To explain to you guys how angry that guy used to make me, it was crazy," White said. "It was literally crazy. Those were crazy times, man. It was weird.
"Someday you guys will see it all because most of it is on video. The video blogs that we shoot, those were video blogs that never went out."
Ortiz's longtime *****, Liddell, was inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame in July 2009 and then walked away from the sport one year later after suffering his third-straight knockout. Liddell currently serves in an executive role for the UFC, but White wasn't sure Ortiz would be extended the same offer when his fighting days are finally over.
"Chuck is a guy who I really feel helped us build this business," White said. "It's easy to sit back now and look at the 'monopoly' of the UFC, but back in the day, everybody was coming into the business. PRIDE was bigger than we were. When money was easy, you could just make a phone call and raise $300 million. All these guys, everybody loves the fight business. Everybody wants to be in it, and everybody was trying to be in the fight business at that time. There were certain guys through the thick and the thin that were there for us in the time of need. There's guys like Chuck, Matt Hughes, Forrest Griffin, Joe Rogan.
"When Joe Rogan was on 'Fear Factor,' I don't know if I've ever said this publicly or not, but when I called Joe Rogan and said, 'I think that you would be great for commentary in the UFC. What do you think? Are you interested?' or something like that, they guy was on the highest-rated show in network television at the time, 'Fear Factor.' He did the first 15 UFCs for free. We didn't pay Joe Rogan a dime for the first 15 UFCs. Joe Rogan gets paid now. Believe me, he gets paid! But just to show you the kind of stuff that happened early on in the early days. It's easy to sit back now and call us a monopoly and say all this other stuff, but it was rough times back in the early days of the UFC."
News on the future of both fighters may be slow in coming. White on Monday travels to Brazil to begin the casting process for the first-ever international version of "The Ultimate Fighter."
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Shortly after UFC 140 ended, former Strikeforce and PRIDE champion, Dan Henderson campaigned for a shot at Jon Jones. He turned to twitter to make the case for a title shot:
Dan Henderson Congrats to @jonnybones -- great win. Hey @danawhite, I'd like to see if his chin is as good as he thinks & I'm ready to go.
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Aside from the winner of Phil Davis vs. Rashad Evans, Henderson is probably the only light heavyweight that can draw a ton of interest in a match against Jones. He has the wrestling, and that bomb of a right hand that can cause stylistic problems, plus he's riding high coming off a very impressive run in 2011. That hot-streak has seen him win the Strikeforce light heavyweight title, KO the greatest heavyweight of all-time in Fedor Emeliananko, and defeat Shogun Rua in a fight of the year candidate. While it is a very interesting match up, there could be issues with timing, as Jones said during the post-fight press conference that he wanted to take a few months off. (Transcribed by MMA Mania):
"I would like to take up to four months off, maybe even five. Come on Dana, give me a break, give me a break please. Yeah, fighting maybe three times in 2012 would be nice, but you know a break sounds nice, too. So, it's really up to the UFC, one of my goals is to be a company guy, so if the UFC asks me to do something, I probably won't put up much of a fight. So it's really up to Dana."If the bout against Jones does happen though, let's hope it comes sooner rather than later, as the 41-year-old Henderson isn't getting any younger.
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Gotta love Muay Thai!
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