Fat Burner Questions

[Athletix]

I have a formula in mind but I want to hear what people have to say about ingredients you couldn't live without and ingredients that you absolutely hate, lists can be as long as needed, but I am really curious to see.

[3clipseGT]

I have a formula in mind but I want to hear what people have to say about ingredients you couldn't live without and ingredients that you absolutely hate, lists can be as long as needed, but I am really curious to see.

For my cuts i love TTA, green coffee bean, 3,3 and 3,5 and alpha yohimbe. Those are my staples.

Absolutely hate would be stims that are dirty, like regular yohimbe etc.. 1,3 isnt bad but its in everything.

[Athletix]

For my cuts i love TTA, green coffee bean, 3,3 and 3,5 and alpha yohimbe. Those are my staples.

Absolutely hate would be stims that are dirty, like regular yohimbe etc.. 1,3 isnt bad but its in everything.

Yeah 1,3 is definitely a fickle beast. I think it is highly dependent on the extract such as where it is from, the salt used, what it is put with, etc. So some people it feels great at 50mg and others 50mg makes them shake.

[3clipseGT]

Yeah 1,3 is definitely a fickle beast. I think it is highly dependent on the extract such as where it is from, the salt used, what it is put with, etc. So some people it feels great at 50mg and others 50mg makes them shake.

Exactly, some products i seem to get aggitated on while others with 1,3 i feel euphoric and motivated!

[Athletix]

Exactly, some products i seem to get aggitated on while others with 1,3 i feel euphoric and motivated!

Exactly . I begin to wonder if some people are using extract vs. pure 1,3-dimethyl, I think a lot of people have it labeled incorrectly honestly. Plus if you notice most people do not put what salt form they are using on the label which is also incorrect. You would think HCl but the fact they don't put that makes me think it may be an extract from the plant which has other stuff in it that could be contributing.

At any rate we are looking into doing some pretty cool stuff with it!

[3clipseGT]

Exactly . I begin to wonder if some people are using extract vs. pure 1,3-dimethyl, I think a lot of people have it labeled incorrectly honestly. Plus if you notice most people do not put what salt form they are using on the label which is also incorrect. You would think HCl but the fact they don't put that makes me think it may be an extract from the plant which has other stuff in it that could be contributing.

At any rate we are looking into doing some pretty cool stuff with it!

Nice! Im excited to see what you guys have in store for this fatburner, i seem to utilize a fatburner year round as my body loves to hold fat lol.

[monstermash]

Hate- caffeine

Love- Alpha-Y, Octopamine HCL, fucoxanthin , green coffee bean extract-Chlorogenic Acid, Plcar

TTA is amazing but lately my joints don't agree with it.

[MAxximal]

look into this and tell me

kill Fat Cells

[Athletix]

look into this and tell me

kill Fat Cells

Those studies are tough to judge, I would have to dig more into the statistics they used to properly assess them, one thing you have to take with a grain of salt in the capsaicin studies is that they tested these in people who probably aren't exercising like most of us do. If you even look at the trials of things like phentermine and fenfluramine the results aren't really all that impressive but are also being looked at in morbidly obese individuals who have different metabolisms and drive than most of us do. In the DH-capsaicin study they were just looking at RMR, but that isn't always a huge predictor of anything if you are simply looking at how much it helps burn calories when only at rest.

CLA has always been intriguing to me personally, surprised it isn't used more than it is, probably isn't due to the dose frankly. I'm not a huge resveratrol fan when it comes to anything outside its antioxidant properties, it acts in too many places to be considered for use in any one situation. It is an agonist/antagonist at multiple places so we really just don't enough about it right now.

As for curcumin, in that study you are essentially increasing insulin resistance, I didn't read the study but I doubt that it does it only at adipose tissue, in most cases it is doing that everywhere and if that is the case you can decrease glucose uptake into muscle tissue and not recover as well workout to workout so that isn't necessarily a good thing either.

[raulob72]

A high quality of green tea extrac always do me good!!my .02 ents

[JudgementDay]

I have a formula in mind but I want to hear what people have to say about ingredients you couldn't live without and ingredients that you absolutely hate, lists can be as long as needed, but I am really curious to see.

Bump!

Lets hear some more ingredients you guys love and hate, anyone else?

[Milas]

CLA sucks, didn't do anything with over 1000 caps.
TTA was meh too, takes too much to be cost effective.

Caffeine
DMAA
di-methyl sodium butyrate (thiamizine?)
Alpha Y
3,5 T2
Theobromine
Theophylline
5-HTP
Beta methyl synephrine
N-Acetly Tyrosine
Piperine
Quercetin

[JudgementDay]

CLA sucks, didn't do anything with over 1000 caps.
TTA was meh too, takes too much to be cost effective.

Caffeine
DMAA
di-methyl sodium butyrate (thiamizine?)
Alpha Y
3,5 T2
Theobromine
Theophylline
5-HTP
Beta methyl synephrine
N-Acetly Tyrosine
Piperine
Quercetin

Thanks for your input Milas! I like a lot of the ingredients you have mentioned.

[Milas]

Do it, do them all!

Tabs or caps? I think you can get more ingredients in a tab, so maybe that's a possibility?

[JudgementDay]

Do it, do them all!

Tabs or caps? I think you can get more ingredients in a tab, so maybe that's a possibility?

I think caps is what would happen.

I'm a fan of all these you listed
Caffeine
Thiamine/Sulbutiamine
1'3dime
3,5
Theophylline
Beta methyl synephrine
N-Acetly Tyrosine
Piperine
Quercetin

I'm not a big fan of yohimbine, but thats because it makes me sick, but I do see that a lot of people like it.

[Milas]

Does Alpha Y give you the same problem?

[ssbackwards]

I have a formula in mind but I want to hear what people have to say about ingredients you couldn't live without and ingredients that you absolutely hate, lists can be as long as needed, but I am really curious to see.

high dose OCTOPAMINE!!!

[thebigt]

I think caps is what would happen.

I'm a fan of all these you listed
Caffeine
Thiamizine/Sulbutiamine
1'3dime
3,5
Theophylline
Beta methyl synephrine
N-Acetly Tyrosine
Piperine
Quercetin

I'm not a big fan of yohimbine, but thats because it makes me sick, but I do see that a lot of people like it.

thiamizine/sulbutamine.....some of the best stims i have tried have had 1 or both of those.

[JudgementDay]

Does Alpha Y give you the same problem?

Is it a Yohimbine product? another name for it is Rauwolscine HCL, the stuff decreases my performance and also makes me very nauseous. But a lot of people don't get that side from it, I wish I could take it by the sound of everyone loving it so much.

[JudgementDay]

thiamizine/sulbutamine.....some of the best stims i have tried have had 1 or both of those.

Ya the Sulbutiamine is a synthetic derivative of thiamine (vitamin B1), the stuff is great for pre-workout energy.