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    Q: When is the best time to take Lipotrophin PM?

    A: Take on an empty stomach 30-45 minutes before bedtime. It can be taken with food, but will not be as effective.

    Q: What makes Lipotrophin-PM™ different from other fat burners?

    A: First, it is stimulant-free, which allows for night-time use. Of course there are other stimulant-free products out there, but only Lipotrophin-PM actually promotes deeper, more restful sleep, without leaving you feeling drowsy or sluggish the next day. Instead, it leaves the user refreshed, while the two-fold action of blood sugar control and hormonal manipulation ensures maximum metabolic action and fat loss.

    Q: Can I take Lipotrophin –PM during the day?

    A: Absolutely. Many people prefer not to take a stimulant-based fat-burner at all. Lipotrophin-PM works very effectively when taken in the morning, mid-afternoon, and at bedtime for 24 hour a day fat metabolization.

    Q: Will Lipotrophin-PM make me tired if I take it during the day?

    A: Not at all. Lipotrophin-PM promotes a deeper sleep through increased dopamine, which is produced in higher quantities during sleep. It has no drug-like effects that would cause feelings of fatigue or grogginess like those found in most common over-the-counter sleep aids.

    Q: How much time will it take to notice the sleep-enhancing effects and positive body composition benefits of Lipotrophin-PM?

    A: The sleep benefits of Lipotrophin-PM are noticeable after the first dose, and the blood sugar attenuating effects of Lipotrophin-PM are recognized during the first 2-3 days of usage. Weight loss benefits from the compound are noticeable after just 2-3 weeks.

    Q: How does Lipotrophin PM help control my cravings?

    A: The banaba extract and mucuna pruriens in Lipotrophin PM help curb cravings by stabilizing blood sugar and insulin levels. Mucuna pruriens has been documented to have potent neurotransmitter-boosting effects along with blood sugar controlling effects, both of which promote fat metabolization. Low neurotransmitter levels (mainly dopamine and serotonin) can result in cravings for sugars and sweets and in some cases even depression, which leads to “comfort eating”. Corosolic acid (the active ingredient in banaba extract) has been shown to significantly lower blood glucose and heighten insulin sensitivity.

    Q: Can Lipotrophin-PM actually increase growth hormone levels?

    A: Yes. L-Dopa from the mucuna pruriens is the only form of dopamine that can cross the blood/brain barrier. Once L-Dopa is converted to dopamine in the brain, it inhibits hypothalamic somatostatin secretion, allowing for a greater stimulatory of GHRH (growth hormone releasing hormone), which increases the amount of growth hormone release. Increased growth hormone is desireable due to its direct fat-burning and lean muscle promoting effects.

    Q: Can getting a good night’s sleep actually help me metabolize more body fat?

    A: Absolutely. Excessive cortisol from sleep deprivation has been shown to cause increased fat storage among both men and women. GH blunts the effects of cortisol, and keeps this stress hormone from breaking down muscle tissue, and depositing visceral adipose tissue (VAT). Growth Hormone releases occur more frequently at certain stages of sleep, allowing for a more restful sleep. Stopping VAT and cortisol preserves lean muscle mass, while further allowing GH to exert its positive restorative and rejuvenating effects that occurs during sleep.

    Q: Who can benefit from taking Lipotrophin-PM?

    A: Anyone who wants to burn fat 24-hours a day and increase their GH levels to induce a longer more restful sleep.
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    I tryed my free sample of the Pm and I have to say I havnt had "wood" like this in a long time, also wakign up feeling refreshed. This is only day one, will report back to see if its the same every day with taking this stuff. Im using three caps before bed.
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    hey guys, was interested in picking up some of this stuff but i noticed it has grean tea in it. Doest GT not contain some sort of caffein in it? I'd love something to help with sleep and fat loss, melatonin is starting to wear thin on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Australian made View Post
    hey guys, was interested in picking up some of this stuff but i noticed it has grean tea in it. Doest GT not contain some sort of caffein in it? I'd love something to help with sleep and fat loss, melatonin is starting to wear thin on me.
    Greent tea contains caffeine, but the amount is usually truly negligible. Furthermore, green tea also contains the amino acid, L-Theanine. This compound has several useful properties, including modulation of GABA levels in the brain, acting as a potent nootropic and antioxidant, supporting cognition, triggering of several important metabolic processes, and so on. L-Theanine usually overwhelms the stimulating effects of caffeine in green tea, producing a calm feeling, without triggering a feeling of sedation. So, green tea should not keep you awake by any means. L-Theanine is also available as a separate supplement, by the way. In this case, prefer SunTheanine, a patented brand of L-Theanine.
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    I love my lipo pm... i work out in the evening, so i dont want too much stimulant to alter my bed time.
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    I was thinking of getting this one. its a toss between it and RPN's DCP.
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    Anyone know a site that will ship Lipo PM to Canada?
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    Quote Originally Posted by valheruking View Post
    Anyone know a site that will ship Lipo PM to Canada?
    Go to www.appnut.com. Or e-mail Dirk (dirkt@bellsouth.net) or Alyson (alyson@appliednutriceuticals. com). Either way, AN or one of the reps will be able to get it to you if you want it. Lipotrophin-PM gets in to NZ all right, and Australia, Canada, and NZ have the strictest Customs in the world!
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    One more question, I'm around 147, is it safe to take 3 pills/tablets before bed? The reason I would up the dose is for sleep and not so much for fat burning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valheruking View Post
    One more question, I'm around 147, is it safe to take 3 pills/tablets before bed? The reason I would up the dose is for sleep and not so much for fat burning.
    It would be safe; I'm 110lb and I use 2 caps. I would start with the 2 caps though, even for the sleep benefits (I use it for that reason, too). Try that for the first week, and then up the dose to 3 caps after that, if you really feel a need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    It would be safe; I'm 110lb and I use 2 caps. I would start with the 2 caps though, even for the sleep benefits (I use it for that reason, too). Try that for the first week, and then up the dose to 3 caps after that, if you really feel a need to.
    Thanks, my plan is to take 2 pills before bedtime for the first week and then 1 in the morning and 2 at nights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valheruking View Post
    Thanks, my plan is to take 2 pills before bedtime for the first week and then 1 in the morning and 2 at nights.
    The 2 caps before bedtime sounds fine. If you're using Lipotrophin-PM for the sleeping benefits then you DON'T need to dose in the morning; this would be more if you are looking for fat loss as well.
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    Yes, valheruking, the dosages are recommended as they are, because they are the OPTIMAL doses for that specific weight...Is your sleep of deeper and better quality using Lipotrophin-PM?
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    How long can I stay on Lipo PM without a break? Is there a need for a 5 on 2 off schedual, or a month on, 2 weeks off?

    I'd really like to take it straight.

    Also, how long after food should I wait to take it? Try this:

    I do judo from 7-9pm. I'm home around 9:30-9:45pm. I need to be in bed by 11pm, and I'm hungry. Should I take my Lipo PM, wait 20 minutes, then eat a light meal, or eat, and wait 45min-1hr?
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    How long can I stay on Lipo PM without a break? Is there a need for a 5 on 2 off schedual, or a month on, 2 weeks off?

    I'd really like to take it straight.
    You don't need to cycle Lipotrophin-PM. I've been using it every day since the start of February (and never want to be withOUT it!)

    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Also, how long after food should I wait to take it? Try this:

    I do judo from 7-9pm. I'm home around 9:30-9:45pm. I need to be in bed by 11pm, and I'm hungry. Should I take my Lipo PM, wait 20 minutes, then eat a light meal, or eat, and wait 45min-1hr?
    You should wait ~2 hours after eating before dosing. And it only needs to be dosed ONCE daily: Just before bed. You don't want to eat AFTER you've had it, if possible.

    Also, I noticed that if I took it at the recommended time of 45 minutes pre-bed, then I was awake for ages. Now I take it either just BEFORE I go to bed, or 2 hours before I go to bed, and have no trouble going to sleep.

    Looking at that, I would recommend that you eat as soon as you can after judo (i.e. 9pm). And then take 2 caps (you may want to try 3 caps after the first week, if you like) of Lipotrophin-PM at 11pm, just before you go to bed.
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    Ok, cool. About the dosing times, I only have an hour and a half or quarter between getting home and going to sleep, not much I can do about it. I get up at 5:15am, and gotta have my 6 hours sleep. I've tried both, taking lipo first, and eating first, and honestly it seems like I sleep better taking lipo first. I know it totally screws with gh release. I try to eat something like peanut butter on sprouted grain bread, one or two sandwiches, which should be pretty low GI.

    I can't skip the food, I burn 2k calories or so in 2 hours of judo, and I'm starving usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Ok, cool. About the dosing times, I only have an hour and a half or quarter between getting home and going to sleep, not much I can do about it. I get up at 5:15am, and gotta have my 6 hours sleep. I've tried both, taking lipo first, and eating first, and honestly it seems like I sleep better taking lipo first. I know it totally screws with gh release. I try to eat something like peanut butter on sprouted grain bread, one or two sandwiches, which should be pretty low GI.

    I can't skip the food, I burn 2k calories or so in 2 hours of judo, and I'm starving usually.
    Dose when you feel you get the best sleeping benefits, then. (Note that it won't affect you GH release; think you're mistaking for IGF-2).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    Yes, valheruking, the dosages are recommended as they are, because they are the OPTIMAL doses for that specific weight...Is your sleep of deeper and better quality using Lipotrophin-PM?
    Yes sleep is much better but when I wake up, I feel really tired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valheruking View Post
    Yes sleep is much better but when I wake up, I feel really tired.
    Interesting. How MUCH sleep do you get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    Interesting. How MUCH sleep do you get?
    Last night I slept at 1:30am and woke up around 10:45am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valheruking View Post
    Last night I slept at 1:30am and woke up around 10:45am.
    Maybe you're so tired because you're OVERsleeping? (That is, if you sleep that long all the time).

    Perhaps you should try only 1 cap for a few days and see how that goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    Dose when you feel you get the best sleeping benefits, then. (Note that it won't affect you GH release; think you're mistaking for IGF-2).
    Well, which comes first: deep sleep>gh release, or GH release>deep sleep? I thought L-Dopa affects GH directly, though?

    Q: Can Lipotrophin-PM actually increase growth hormone levels?

    A: Yes. L-Dopa from the mucuna pruriens is the only form of dopamine that can cross the blood/brain barrier. Once L-Dopa is converted to dopamine in the brain, it inhibits hypothalamic somatostatin secretion, allowing for a greater stimulatory of GHRH (growth hormone releasing hormone), which increases the amount of growth hormone release. Increased growth hormone is desireable due to its direct fat-burning and lean muscle promoting effects.
    Anyway, eating right before bed is bad for GH release
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Well, which comes first: deep sleep>gh release, or GH release>deep sleep? I thought L-Dopa affects GH directly, though?

    Anyway, eating right before bed is bad for GH release
    Better sleep comes from greater GH release.

    Honestly, your training at that time and then wanting to go to bed when you do is NOT ideal if you are to use Lipotrophin-PM the most effectively. But, it's up to you.
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    For sure, I just don't have a choice. You'd be surprised if I gave you my schedule. Ugh
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    For sure, I just don't have a choice. You'd be surprised if I gave you my schedule. Ugh
    Probably not. Considering the schedule I used to keep and am trying to get back into again!
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    Would it be alright to take Neovar and Lipotrophin-pm at the same time with both containing banaba extract?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robster11 View Post
    Would it be alright to take Neovar and Lipotrophin-pm at the same time with both containing banaba extract?
    Yes. Sometimes I double-dose NeoVar Recomped at night pre-bed; which is when I also dose Lipotrophin-PM.

    However, given the timing of the dosing required for each product, they generally would NOT be dosed together: Lipotrophin-PM only needs to be dosed once daily (and this is usually last thing at night), but can also be dosed first thing in the morning; and NeoVar Recomped should be dosed post-resistance/anaerobic training, and 15-20 minutes prior to a meal (preferably containing at least 50g of carbohydrates).
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    Can I take LipoPm and ZMA at the same time? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by valheruking View Post
    Can I take LipoPm and ZMA at the same time? Thanks
    Should be fine.
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    The mucuna pruriens in lipotrophin-PM is standardised to 25% or 75% l-dopa? In all websites it says 25% but the bottle I bought says 75% :s Am i that lucky lol ? I d appreciate it if you could answer me, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamkas View Post
    The mucuna pruriens in lipotrophin-PM is standardised to 25% or 75% l-dopa? In all websites it says 25% but the bottle I bought says 75% :s Am i that lucky lol ? I d appreciate it if you could answer me, thanks.
    It's 75% - all of them are the same.

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    Thanks for the quick reply, I was under the impression that lipotrophin was 25% and HGHup 75% (at least thats what most of the websites say). So, what s the difference in terms of mucuna quantities in these two products? Does HGHup contain more (per capsule)? For restfull sleep and fat loss purposes which one would you choose? Thank you in advance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamkas View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply, I was under the impression that lipotrophin was 25% and HGHup 75% (at least thats what most of the websites say). So, what s the difference in terms of mucuna quantities in these two products? Does HGHup contain more (per capsule)? For restfull sleep and fat loss purposes which one would you choose? Thank you in advance!
    If you read the ingredient profiles, then you can see the % of L-Dopa used - don't believe everything you read, unless it is on the product in front of you. Both Lipotrophin-Pm and HGHup♂ contain Mucuna Pruriens standardized to 75% L-Dopa. Because each product is a proprietary blend, I cannot tell you specific quantites of Mucuna Pruriens in each - but take a look at the ingredient profiles of each closely.

    Lipotrophin-PM and HGHup♂ are two VERY DIFFERENT products - you can tell this, simply by reading about each product - and cannot be compared. Both work well for improving sleep and fat loss, so you could use either.

    As you already know, Lipotrophin-PM is a STAPLE for me - but I use it for the deeper, better quality sleep, and not for fat burning.


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    What is the max dose/day? This product reminds me of camphabolic from USP, and I took it during the day and at night. I have 1 bottle. I plan to take 3/night (200 lbs). Can I also take 3 mid-morning? about 1 hr after and 2 hrs before food?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCbuilder View Post
    What is the max dose/day? This product reminds me of camphabolic from USP, and I took it during the day and at night. I have 1 bottle. I plan to take 3/night (200 lbs). Can I also take 3 mid-morning? about 1 hr after and 2 hrs before food?
    Lipotrophin-PM only needs to be dosed ONCE daily: pre-bed - with the heaviest bodyweight dosing at 3 caps. You could take 3 caps in the morning if you like, but it's really not necessary, and if you DO dose in the morning, I would recommend having only 1-2 caps. Re maximum dosage, I definitely do not recommend exceeding 6 caps daily.

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    Is the L-Dopa in Lipotrophin pm enough to block or reduce Prolactin?
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