Hey, just picked up some HGHup and NeoVar, Nutraplanet is offering a great deal for those interested (only ~$47 after tax). But my problem is, they have sort of conflicting dosing times. HGHup works worse with carbs, but NeoVar needs them. So my question is, how should I effectively stack these two products? My basic understanding is that HGHup is to be taken on an empty stomach (2 hours after eating) but you are not supposed to eat for another 1+1/2 to 2 hours afterwards? Meanwhile, NeoVar is to be taken 15-20 minutes before a meal with plenty of carbs. If these aren't correct, let me know. Otherwise, my schedule looks like this (meals aren't the same every day, but should give an idea of what my typical intake is like):
9am - Breakfast/Meal 1. 4 egg whites, 2 whole eggs. Oatmeal with 1/3 cup of craisins. One tablespoon of peanut butter. Sport multi-vitamin and fish oil taken after meal.
11am - HGHup dose 1, 3 capsules.
12:40pm - NeoVar dose 1, 3 capsules.
1pm - Meal 2. Two cans of solid white albacore tuna. Two slices of whole wheat/whole grain bread. A banana. One tablespoon of peanut butter.
2pm - Workout.
~3pm - Post workout protein shake consisting of 24g whey protein, one cup of whole milk, and 40g carbs in the form of oats.
3:15pm - Post workout meal/meal 3. 5 whole eggs, a bowl of Total cereal in one cup of whole milk. One tablespoon olive oil. Sport multi-vitamin taken after meal.
5:40pm - NeoVar dose 2, 3 capsules.
6pm - Meal 4. Lean steak (when I have steak it's usually filet mignon). Mashed potatoes with a tablespoon of olive oil mixed in. Mixed greens (broccoli, spinach, asparagus etc).
8pm - HGHup dose 2, 3 capsules.
10pm - Meal 5. 2 chicken breasts. Salad with walnuts and a small amount of vinaigrette dressing.
12pm - Meal 6. 2 scoops of whey protein, 48g plus one and a half cups of whole milk.
My questions mainly pertain to the HGHup doses. Should the first one be earlier? Should the second one come after my last meal of the day and replace the milk with water (to reduce carbs as much as possible)? Another alternative option I was thinking was taking the first dose two hours after my second meal, then working out one hour later (and since the workout takes around 1 hour, that should fulfill the 2 hour guideline). The only problem I foresee there is that then I'd be working out on a pretty empty tank.
In another post, I saw someone advising against taking whey protein with HGHup. What's the specific reasoning behind this, and what should I take in place? I would think sacrificing a post-workout protein shake would be bad, so I'd like to get any alternative for it that I can. Then again, maybe that was specifically advising against taking it at the same time as the HGHup. I'll try to find the post.
So, mainly the most exciting thing about this product is it provides near hormonal results without needing a PCT. This is correct, yes? I don't see anything in the ingredients that would make one think it requires a PCT at all, but better safe than sorry.
Ok, one last question and that's it I swear. I was planning on seeing how this goes, and depending on that, stacking HGHup with a testosterone booster like Sustain Alpha. Would this be recommended or should I just stick with one or the other?
Thanks for taking the time to read my wall o' text.