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    Lipo-PM appreciation thread


    I've been wanting to post this for awhile, You know there are several products that I take occasionally from both appnut and other vendors that dont ever really get enough appreciation and this is one of them. Its very underrated and it needs more light cast upon.

    beside the obvious fat burner effects from it. It provides one of the best natural sleeps that I can get. I normally sleep 9am to about 4pm give or take on the week days then I revert back to normal life on the weekends,. it tosses me out of whack really bad but I am almost done with this shift for ever!

    I have been prescribed ambien for those days that I am just too wound up. as of late I have been trying to stop that and have came back to the old standy by

    lipo pm at 3 pills 1 hr before bed and its lights out. Not a passed out time to get ass raped crash. but just a natural deep sleep without the groggy ****tiness i feel when i get up from ambien

    its my goal to get more light on this and im starting now
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    Thumbs up A staple for sure


    I'll be the second to say that Lipotrophin-PM is very UNDERrated.

    I started using it in January 2008. These were my comments after 12 weeks:
    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn
    Since I started using the L-PM (this is the only supplement that I used as a 'stand alone', the week before I started my log, so I can say this for certain) my sleep has been far deeper and restful than it has ever been. It has been like the sleep I used to get when I was working training hard for ~20 hours a week, working 80-hour weeks (split shifts and back to backs), and studying part-time, when I was so absolutely shattered at the end of every day that I was almost asleep BEFORE my head hit the pillow! The only difference, though, has been that it takes me ~2 hours after taking L-PM BEFORE I actually GO to sleep! And for the first time in my life I have been getting MORE than 4-6 hours sleep (up to 12 hours!), moreso in the last 2 weeks than any before.
    After 18 months of almost perpetual use I still say this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn
    I really LOVE Lipotrophin-PM. I can feel the effects of it pretty much straight away: It gives you that thermogenic feeling in your belly about 10 minutes after dosing. My main motivation for using it is for the benefits of the deeper and more restful sleep, as well as eliminating drowsiness upon waking (as opposed to fat loss), since my sleep (if I slept at all!) before I started taking it was often very broken and of poor quality. Plus, I could never sleep for longer than 4-5 hours; on L-PM I have been sleeping up to 10-12 hours sometimes, a dramatic change to how I used to be! Definitely a STAPLE supplement to be using (and if you're wanting to maintain relative leanness, then it can help there too).
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    Users' Feedback on Lipotrophin-PM


    Ok, so Lipotrophin-PM doesn't have the recognition that it deserves. So that we have feedback from users all in one thread I have gone through and found some for you. Hopefully these will give you some idea of the effects of Lipotrophin-PM.


    Quote Originally Posted by AppliedBaby View Post
    I love my lipo pm... i work out in the evening, so i dont want too much stimulant to alter my bed time.
    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    i've taken it as 2 or 3 and i've pretty much used it prebed only. you get max value if you take it on an empty stomach, and avoid carbs for the next 90-120 minutes. i'm 200lbs too, so a 180lb guy could easily get away with 2 caps, which means a 60 day bottle if you dose like that, or still 30 days if you take 1 daytime dose too. pretty sweet deal for $20. Really no kickin time, starts working right away
    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    ...I am just dosing mine 3 before bed. I am loving the sleep benefits thus far. Waking up refreshed and sleeping like a log through the entire night.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    ...using Lipotrophin_PM for sleep. I havent checked my weight but i have noticed that no more night cravings. I used to get in the middle of the night and eat something fruit/NattyPB sandwitch/doritos or what ever i could find and then go back to sleep...
    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    Its my first fat burner and i am loving it. I take it at work around 8 or 9 pm
    then get home and do cardio for about 40 minutes, then fall into an amazing sleep
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortman212 View Post
    I havent seen to many reviews for this product, but I am 1 month into my summer cut. Currently 226lbs down from 238lbs at the end of March.

    This product by Applied Nutriceuticals is a nighttime thermogenic.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/app/pm.html

    I have been using this product for 10 days now and I am definetely impressed, the first thing I noticed day1 was how relaxed it made me feel. I fell a sleep instantly and woke up feeling like I slept more than 6 hours. That trend has continued for over a week. Its works the best on an empty stomach.

    Overall 8/10
    Positives- Good deep sleep, overall relaxation, weight loss benefits, anti-oxidants (EGCG)
    Negatives- None although it might wear off, or is less effective with food in stomach.

    Weight Loss 7/10
    Non thermo, so weightloss is quite a bit slower, but Already lost 3 lbs in ten days without changing my diet during that time.

    Cost 10/10
    Got it on sale and it is 40 days worth for my bodyweight (200+).
    Quote Originally Posted by lilpeep05 View Post
    The very first thing i noticed so far is that the first night i had a hell of a time trying to get to sleep. I think i took it about 30 minutes before bed and i ended up just laying there thinking about all kinds of wierd ****. Really restless. Im a really light sleeper normally and when i take PM right before my head hits the pillows Ive been getting awesome sleep. Im still kinda groggy when i wake up. It could be that im just not a morning person. Or that im still trying to shake this crud i got from being on the carrier for a week. So fars been really good. My mornings are getting better each day and i havent been feeling as bummish after work when i go to do my workout...

    ...

    ...I took two pills before I went to bed around 10:30 pm and I was knocked out. I woke up this morning before my alarm even went off and I felt really good. Ive been really energetic all morning...

    So far this product has...

    Positives... Deeper sleep at night, Not groggy anymore, Feeling more energetic throughout the day, which makes my RPM seem to have a more energetic effect on me when I take it. It seems like its kicking in faster since I actually have some energy when im ready to go workout.
    Quote Originally Posted by garylg View Post
    Well the scale this morning was about 203#. Another pound gone !! This was good since I blew last weeks training off. Shoulder needed a cortisone shot, worked late etc etc.

    I didn't expect to have any change at all.

    So that's a net loss of approx 7#s in 4 weeks without intense workouts or major dietary changes.

    For me that's great!! I spent the entire last year trying to get back into shape, eat better & less and only lost about 10#

    I can finally see the difference in the belly bulge, man tits and I've had to bring the belt in a notch (depending on the pants).

    I'm really looking forward to trying the product twice a day starting in a couple of weeks.

    ...

    Weigh in today 200#
    That's a steady weight for a week now.

    That means a total loss of 10# That's the most i've lost without being majorly sick or recovering from a surgery.

    This is definitely a kick-### product.

    Stats: all are cold measurements
    Starting Ending Change
    Weight - 210# 200# -10#
    R. Forearm ? 13? 13" n/c
    R. Bi ? 15 ?? 15" -1/2"
    Chest ? 43? 42 1/2" -1/2"
    Stomach - 42 ?? 40 1/2' -2 1/2"
    Waist ? 38? 37 1/4" -3/4"
    Hips ? 41? 39" -2"
    R. Thigh ? 24? 23 5/8" -3/8"
    R. Calf ? 16 ?? 17 1/4" +1/2"

    I am very satisfied and have ordered 2 bottles.

    AN has been kind enough to send the neovar/IGF-2/Osteo-C stack.

    I am going to run the Lipo-PM at twice a day and do the stack - 4 weeks worth. I the stack is going well or at least starting to kick in i plan on ordering another 4 weeks worth and run the whole thing for 8 weeks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonewb View Post
    First Night Sleep Recap

    I gotta say, last night sleep was a great night. I didn't wake up at all through the night like I usually do, even when I took stuff like ZMA. Had dreams all night, which I love lol. Only other thing that I noticed is that I woke up EXTREMELY hungry compared to normal. I don't know if that's an affect for the Lipotrophin-PM or just more hungry than normal. Good thing I eat usually 45 minutes after I wake up lol.[/b]

    ...

    Day 3 Night Recap

    Last night was a very interesting nigh to of sleep that I have had in a while. I took 2 caps of Lipotrophin-PM about an hour before sleep and I was knocked out. The weird thing was, around 1:30am i woke up sweating, hot as hell, but still tired. Usually I am only like that when I have a cold and it broke through the night or something like that. I just thought that it was weird so I figured i would report it.

    Still great sleep though, once I am out, I am out like a light. Very deep sleep and vivid dreams through the night, strange ones too. I had a dream about Obama going to Texas to rally up people to kick out immigrants to the country . When my alarm when off I was like WTF??

    ...



    Day 4 Night Recap:

    Last night I slept like a BABY! Didn't move all night until I hear my parents alarm go off down the hallway which wasn't a big deal since It goes off about 20 minutes before mine. Dreams all through the night but I didn't remember then when I woke up this morning which I usually do. I am noticing w/ the Lipotrophin-PM I am much more hungry when I wake up in the morning, usually hunger doesn't kick in for about 30-45 minutes after I have been awake, but with this I am hungry withing 10 minutes lol.

    I have already started to notice some effects of this combo for fat lose. I put a shirt on today that was a little tight on me and it fists me perfectly now. That is the only thing that I hate about cutting so much weight... I went through about 3 sets of cloths since I started lol. Going from a tight 40 waist size jeans, to a loose 32 and a tight XL in shirts to a loose L.

    Feels good to accomplish something like this to be honest.


    ...

    I do notice the Lipotrophin PM giving me much better sleep ... great product...

    ...

    I am less hungry now, It was only the initially first couple days when I get extremely hungry when I woke up. Other than that I gotta say the sleep has been tremendous. I'm out like a light once I hit the pillow lol. I wake up once in a while (usually to go to the bathroom from drinking so much water in the day) but fall right back to sleep no problem.

    ...

    ...AN LipoPM was prolly the best stuff for sleep I have used. I have used ZMA, and a couple other things but this stuff works wonders for sleep .
    Quote Originally Posted by bludevil View Post
    Final Review

    Before giving stats and opinions, I'll say that my diet has been consistent throughout my run. Mon - Fri has been very strict with 1 or 2 cheat meals on Sat/Sun. Basically my cheat meals consisted of big bowls of whole wheat cereal with fruit on top.

    Also would like to note that during the 1st 2 weeks of Lipo PM, I was running it solo, but the last 2 weeks I've added bulk forskolin.

    31 day run statitics
    Before stats
    Weight - 188.6lbs
    BF% (Tanita scale) - 11.7

    After stats
    Weight - 182.4
    BF% (Tanita scale) - 10.8

    Difference
    Weight - 6.2lbs
    BF% - 0.9%

    Sleep 7.5/10 - I thought the first 7-10 days was really good for sleep. I really had nice, deep sleeps with a lot of REM dreams. But the last 7 - 10 days, the deep sleep effect has seemed to diminish some. I still sleep good, but just not getting the crazy dreams I was accustomed to getting from the first 2 weeks.

    Fat loss 8.5/10 - I was very pleased with my results. I basically lost 1% BF in 1 month. If you look at my very 1st post, my goal for my Lipo-PM run was to be at 10.7%. So I only missed it by .1%. Given the relatively cheap cost of Lipo-PM, I think it's a must have for cutting stacks.

    Other thoughts - One of my main concerns with fat loss supplements or thermogenics in general is the inclusion of stimulants. That's one of things I really like about Lipo-PM, in that it's stim free. In the past while using the ECA stack and other fat loss agents that contained massive amounts of stims, I lost a little more bf% but it raised my blood pressure extremly high and gave me constant headaches. I was then diagnosed with hypertension, which made it that more important to cut out my stimulant intake. So for me, my results are even more impressive because no stimulants were used for this run. For that, I'll give AN huge reps for a quality supplement that delivers. While you won't see massive weight loss, you will see slow/steady progression which was my goal.

    I have before/after pictures but my after picture was taken in bad lighting. I went back to take another after pic but my batteries died in my camera. So I'll probably just post my after pic with the bad lighting tonight.

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    A comment from the top:
    Quote Originally Posted by donorrell View Post
    It really helps forgive late day carbs as well. It has pronounce repartitioning effects that ***** many insulin-mimetic products.
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    And the feedback keeps rolling in:
    Quote Originally Posted by Spartaa View Post
    I also notice a better Night's sleep on the days that I take this compared to the ones that I dont. Im happy with this product.
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    If you're wanting that deep sleep...
    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Before bed (~9:30pm) I plan on doing the following
    1/4t NP 1-Carboxy
    2 caps Lipo-PM
    1 cap Reset AD

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    I slept for 8 or 9 hours last night. I dont know exactly when I feel alspeep but last time I remember seeing was 11:12pm. I took the concoction at about 10:15 or so. A little later than I wanted. I didn't wake up at all during the night which gave me a hunch'd over run to the bathroom this morning.

    I didn't have as hard of a time waking this morning. I hit the snooze twice, usually its 4-5 times! So only about a 10min procedure 2day...

    ...

    Great! Sleep has been going real real well since the addition of Lipo-PM and 1-C.

    ...

    Sleep has been great I have been in bed before 11:30 every night this week...
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    Just a couple more...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blahzay128
    I definitely think that Lipotrophin-PM is one of Applied Nutriceuticals "best kept secrets".....I have been using it since it was bottled up (Tanya can probably vouch for me, I just had them send me 2 bottles)....But seriously, I've noticed definite improvement in sleep but also I've noticed that it is effective as an appetite suppressant...which is really helpful right now as I am in the process of cutting for a few shows in Oct/Nov.....On top of that it is priced EXTREMELY well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babolat06
    My favorite use is to take it before big/bad meals. According to Dr.P, GTE blocks the use of fats and whatnot so it is very useful for that. Then theres the health benefits, very nice.

    of course, pre bed = nice sleep (i always get warm lats for some reason )
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    Lipo-PM is off the hizzle fo shizzle my nizzles...ok done with my Snoop Dog impression. . Honestly though...Lipo-PM is a true diamond in the rough and by far and away one of the best products on the market...especially for the value.

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    good work on the feedback rose
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    To bad its rarely in-stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamBoz19 View Post
    Lipo-PM is off the hizzle fo shizzle my nizzles...ok done with my Snoop Dog impression. . Honestly though...Lipo-PM is a true diamond in the rough and by far and away one of the best products on the market...especially for the value.

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    good work on the feedback rose
    Thank, Joe




    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    To bad its rarely in-stock.
    Really? I don't find that
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    There's been a bit of kudos on the 'What's your fav AppNut product thread for Lipotrophin-PM™.

    Funny enough it's out of stock at NP. Hope you guys have more on the way, as I'd like to make it a staple of mine.
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    Lipotrophin-PM is a solid value-for-money. I always enjoy a run. Awesome blend.
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    next time i run igf-2 for 8 weeks i'm going to get myself some Lipo-PM too, reading this thread makes me wanna try it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakellpet View Post
    There's been a bit of kudos on the 'What's your fav AppNut product thread for Lipotrophin-PM™.

    Funny enough it's out of stock at NP. Hope you guys have more on the way, as I'd like to make it a staple of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Lipotrophin-PM is a solid value-for-money. I always enjoy a run. Awesome blend.
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    next time i run igf-2 for 8 weeks i'm going to get myself some Lipo-PM too, reading this thread makes me wanna try it
    You can get a sample if you email Alyson (alyson@appliednutriceuticals. com), Dave. Give name, address, and request Lipotrophin-PM samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    You can get a sample if you email Alyson (alyson@appliednutriceuticals. com), Dave. Give name, address, and request Lipotrophin-PM samples.

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    cool thanks i tried getting a sample through nutriminds.eu but they didn't ship to my address for some reason! just e-mailed her ta!
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    you will love it chubs lol

    seriously its one of the very very few prods that offer the deep sleep without the groggy hungover feeling in the morning

    it usually takes a day or 2 for me to dial in the dosing when i started

    dising chart called for 3 for my weight the first time i tried with 2 just for effects. I now run 3 i do it 5 days on 2 off

    the weekends i dont do it just to give myself a rest but also i can stay up a bit later without work

    but on weekdays I take my dose at 9pm and laydown to watch some toob before i am off fast to sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outside Backer View Post
    you will love it chubs lol

    seriously its one of the very very few prods that offer the deep sleep without the groggy hungover feeling in the morning

    it usually takes a day or 2 for me to dial in the dosing when i started

    dising chart called for 3 for my weight the first time i tried with 2 just for effects. I now run 3 i do it 5 days on 2 off

    the weekends i dont do it just to give myself a rest but also i can stay up a bit later without work

    but on weekdays I take my dose at 9pm and laydown to watch some toob before i am off fast to sleep.

    love this stuff
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    i'm going to take some tonite. just like last nite, and the nite before that
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    Just got this an i gota say the sleep is incredible. I love it. I havn't slept like this since i was a kid. Most of the time I can't sleep a full 8- 10 hours because i wake up after 5-7 and feel so refreshed. Great product and a new staple for me.
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    Definately going to try this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistolgripump View Post
    Just got this an i gota say the sleep is incredible. I love it. I havn't slept like this since i was a kid. Most of the time I can't sleep a full 8- 10 hours because i wake up after 5-7 and feel so refreshed. Great product and a new staple for me.
    Thanks for your feedback. Lipotrophin-PM is definitely great for deeper sleep!


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    Definately going to try this.
    You won't be disappointed!

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    Bump for Lipotrophin-PM ar***** @ NP
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakellpet View Post
    Bump for Lipotrophin-PM ar***** @ NP
    Yeah, I just picked up a bottle in my last order. I watched this thread light up, and thought I need to try a bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    Yeah, I just picked up a bottle in my last order. I watched this thread light up, and thought I need to try a bottle.
    that was the very last one in stock . . . . bastard!

    . . . but no-ones saying nada on any eta . . . discontinued product?
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    I can't wait to try it out.
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    no, definitely not discontinued
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakellpet View Post
    that was the very last one in stock . . . . bastard!

    . . . but no-ones saying nada on any eta . . . discontinued product?
    definitely not discontinued. I have a bottle haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    definitely not discontinued. I have a bottle haha
    grrr . . . NP already only has one bottle left. You need to send another shipment - preferably before the Labour Day Sale!
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    Is this stuff just less effective, or not effective at all if taken on a full stomach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    Is this stuff just less effective, or not effective at all if taken on a full stomach?
    Lipotrophin-PM has to be taken at least 45 minutes pre or post food (just like IGF-2) because of the L-Dopa content (i.e. you don't want to mess with the absorption of the L-Dopa into the bloodstream).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    Lipotrophin-PM has to be taken at least 45 minutes pre or post food (just like IGF-2) because of the L-Dopa content (i.e. you don't want to mess with the absorption of the L-Dopa into the bloodstream).

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    Technically, empty stomach is preferred because, depending on the rate of gastric emptying and the pH of the gastric contents, L-DOPA is rapidly absorbed from the small intestine, and its appearance in plasma may be delayed by food ingestion. Furthermore, certain amino acids compete with L-DOPA for uptake from the gut and for transport to the brain from the blood. Besides, simultaneous L-DOPA intake with food may blunt potential GH-response. In any case, plasma L-DOPA concentrations may peak within two hours post oral dosing, and some of it would enter the brain, with the rest being metabolized in extra-cerebral cells to dopamine via decarboxylation. To optimize brain L-DOPA metabolism, simultaneous ingestion of such agents as dopamine agonists, DOPA decarboxylase inhibitors, monoamine oxidase B inhibitors, catechol-o-methyltransferase (COMT) inhibitors, acetylcholine blockers, or neuroprotective agents, and so on, may be beneficial. Lipotrophin-PM contains some of these L-DOPA co-factors.
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    Thank's for the info.
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    will let you guys know what i think.

    I am both AM and PM. Just got the PM. I'll let you know how that goes tomorrow morning. :]

    The AM has been alright for energy, gives me that boost for a few hours. The appetite suppression lasts a little into the afternoon. Overall I am really just using it for the green tea and caffeine.
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    bump! My Lipo-pm came in the post today off to bed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I can speak for this supplement as I am finishing up a bottle. The stuff flat out works. I sleep like I am in a coma and wake up feeling alert and recovered. I have been eating like a horse(not as clean as I usually am) but I have remained nice and lean. If I was cutting I could see this providing excellent results and I will be going back to it when I do want to lean up. I used it to see if it would be usable for a clean bulk and it has proven itself very sufficient in that aspect. Hope this helps...AZ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
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    It would be nice if NP could keep it in stock Rosie
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