Tzone and or Mech w/out test

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    Tzone and or Mech w/out test


    Hey guys,

    I've run Tzone before and pct for that cycle ended about 3 months ago. I would like to run another cycle with either Mech or Mech & Tzone this time. It seems like so many experienced users think its ridiculous to run an oral, or topical cycle, without test. Seeing I don't have access to test, do you guys feel Dermacrine or Stano or Derm/Stano is an acceptable substitute? People talk about how quick Tzone shuts you down and that 6-8 weeks with no test is real bad idea. Since I have never run Mech, would you suggest running it solo first? My last Tzone cycle looked something like this 1.5/2.0/2.0/2.0/2.5/2.5. I would have run it another week but a couple injuries kept me from training properly so I cut it short. Thanks in advance!

    Also, I have Talos, Aegis, and Achilles on hand for cycle and both Torem and Clomid (not sure which to use).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackswift View Post
    Hey guys,

    I've run Tzone before and pct for that cycle ended about 3 months ago. I would like to run another cycle with either Mech or Mech & Tzone this time. It seems like so many experienced users think its ridiculous to run an oral, or topical cycle, without test. Seeing I don't have access to test, do you guys feel Dermacrine or Stano or Derm/Stano is an acceptable substitute? People talk about how quick Tzone shuts you down and that 6-8 weeks with no test is real bad idea. Since I have never run Mech, would you suggest running it solo first? My last Tzone cycle looked something like this 1.5/2.0/2.0/2.0/2.5/2.5. I would have run it another week but a couple injuries kept me from training properly so I cut it short. Thanks in advance!

    Also, I have Talos, Aegis, and Achilles on hand for cycle and both Torem and Clomid (not sure which to use).
    I would suggest that if you stack them you bridge Tzone into Mechabol for a total of an 8 week cycle. Although you have not ran Mech solo before it is not an overly "harsh" compound and you could probably get away with stacking it along side Mechabol at a moderate dose of both product. Since you dont have access to test I suggest you run stano at 600-800mg and/or my other suggestion would be go with DHEA at 200-225mg. I just started to incoperate DHEA at 225mg during my last cycle and like it alot more then 800mg of stano. But, thats a personal decision and is up to you. Either stano/derma/DHEA will be fine to use.

    Personally I always like to use Nolva for PCT. But seeing as you already have both Torem and Clomid I would opt for the Torem. I prefer Nolva or Torem over clomid cause they both seem to bring my "boys" aka balls back up a but quick and give a little extra boost in that department. Also Clomid tends to make me a bit moody and overall I just dont feel good on it as opposide to Nolva/Torem. On cycle run your standerd Talos,Aegis, Achilles dose for on cycle support that that should cover all your base's.

    Here is how I would layout the 6-8 week cycle:

    Trenazone: 2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml (if you only want to stack for 6 weeks, opt out the first 2 weeks of Trenazone)
    Mechabol: 0/0/75/75/100/100/100/100
    Torem: 120/90/60/30/ last week optional at 30 if you feel the need

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