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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    Yeah, just a thought seeing i have zero sides. But if its not a good idea then no biggie
    If you're not having any issues I don't see any real reason not to extend it just be prepared for a tougher restart in pct. Shouldn't be too bad though. Stacking clomid with nolva might be a good idea for better recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    If you're not having any issues I don't see any real reason not to extend it just be prepared for a tougher restart in pct. Shouldn't be too bad though. Stacking clomid with nolva might be a good idea for better recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    How would you suggest going about it
    What are you going to bridge into and for how long total? Or are you just going to run a couple more weeks of mecha?

    Either way you can use the same pct scheme I am:

    Clomid: 50/50/25/25/12.5
    Nolva: 20/20/10/10/10

    With the typical daa and ai scheme as per your preferences.

    If you have the stuff on hand id suggest thinking about running stano solo for 1-2 weeks to give your body a methyl break and then running 4 weeks of SD at 10/20/20/20 while keeping stano at your current dosage (800-1000)

    That would probably have you ending up around a 20-22lb gain with some serious strength increases.
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    My current mecha dosing will not leave any more left over unless i purchase another bottle. I have ultradrol on hand and would rather save sd for later on. Im planning on using stano solo for 2weeks as it is. I would only need to acquire clomid and additional supports.
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    Im already up 16, if 4 weeks of sd would only net another 8 i think i would hold off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Im already up 16, if 4 weeks of sd would only net another 8 i think i would hold off.
    8 lbs is a lot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    8 lbs is a lot!
    It is, just not at the sake of bridging into sd
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    It is, just not at the sake of bridging into sd
    Fair enough! I probably wouldn't run SD without test or stano anyway
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    the biggest problem im having is everyone stopping my workouts to ask a billion questions. other than that so far so good, seems stano is outa stock and i really need another bottle. im very pleased that i have exprienced zero sides and weighing in at 189 as of just now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    the biggest problem im having is everyone stopping my workouts to ask a billion questions. other than that so far so good, seems stano is outa stock and i really need another bottle. im very pleased that i have exprienced zero sides and weighing in at 189 as of just now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    the biggest problem im having is everyone stopping my workouts to ask a billion questions. other than that so far so good, seems stano is outa stock and i really need another bottle. im very pleased that i have exprienced zero sides and weighing in at 189 as of just now.
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    okay, so ive bumped mecha to 125mg and continuing stano at 1000mgs for now. weight staying around 187 and have yet to experience any sides. for some reason lately i havent had an appetite and struggled to pound down the cals. my elbows are starting to become very sore as ive been really heavy on the weight for a few weeks now and may need to drop some weight and increase reps for the remainder of this run. i havent noticed any new mass but seem to have leaned out in the midsection, may be due to the loss of appetite but either way i'll take the slight shredded look. im hoping to break 190 by the time mecha runs out in which i have 9 days left of my stock, stano will be ran at 1200mgs until ive finished the bottle then off to post cycle
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    yesterdays diet and supp dosing.

    3 turkey cheddar bagels from dunkn donuts
    sweet n salty almonds, iss oh yeah rtd, glazed donut
    2 cheese sticks, beef jerky, banana
    2 chik fil a sandwiches, peanut butter cup, milk
    honey with plain greek yogurt
    home made gainer shake
    tons of water

    pwo:
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    6g cit mal
    1 scoop endurance

    post:
    1 scoop endurance, 1 scoop bulk leucine
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    yesterdays diet and supp dosing.

    3 turkey cheddar bagels from dunkn donuts
    sweet n salty almonds, iss oh yeah rtd, glazed donut
    2 cheese sticks, beef jerky, banana
    2 chik fil a sandwiches, peanut butter cup, milk
    honey with plain greek yogurt
    home made gainer shake
    tons of water

    pwo:
    3 swolln caps
    6g cit mal
    1 scoop endurance

    post:
    1 scoop endurance, 1 scoop bulk leucine
    Nice! Loooove the food choices. Chik fil a is awesome
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    Congrats on the cycle man! That is a lot of new mass, especially at 5'6, holy shat. That's awesome your cycle was pretty much side free. Mechabol and Trenazone will probably be my next cycle.

    You could always bridge with 11 spray but that won't really add any mass, just helps maintain strength, burn fat, keeps cortisol at bay and sometimes makes the transition into PCT a little easier. I'm currently running a 11 spray/ pump spray bridge. It's funny man, i considered my cycle pretty much "side free" but once I stopped Trenazone (i finished up running it pretty high at 3.0 per day) I noticed I was way less agitated, started sleeping better, and my BP went down. Good luck with PCT and what will you run next do you think? I think I read SD or UD in one of your posts? If you want to put one serious mass, next time you could always pick up some Nanodrol from Predator and stack it with Trenazone, that would be sick!
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    i do have ud and sd, not sure yet. i'll be running the stano for about 2 weeks after mecha
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    Lately I have been feeling "off" per se. I did not dose mecha this morning and felt really good today at work, I dosed 75mg around 4 and 50mg just now and will see how that works out. I've got around 5 days left and have to say I'm completely exhausted and getting annoyed with the constant pump feeling. I struggle putting on my seat belt and all my clothes are now too small, plus the ole' lady hates my new size. Trying to consume 3000 plus cals everyday is also taking its toll on me mentally and I'm ready to start pct and then a nice deload.

    Side note: I'm wondering if adding ostarine during pct will help keep me anabolic and allow me to drop a few cals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Lately I have been feeling "off" per se. I did not dose mecha this morning and felt really good today at work, I dosed 75mg around 4 and 50mg just now and will see how that works out. I've got around 5 days left and have to say I'm completely exhausted and getting annoyed with the constant pump feeling. I struggle putting on my seat belt and all my clothes are now too small, plus the ole' lady hates my new size. Trying to consume 3000 plus cals everyday is also taking its toll on me mentally and I'm ready to start pct and then a nice deload.

    Side note: I'm wondering if adding ostarine during pct will help keep me anabolic and allow me to drop a few cals.
    Check out my pct log, I'm running 10mg/day osta. Its working out great. Still gaining strength and haven't put on any fat really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    Check out my pct log, I'm running 10mg/day osta. Its working out great. Still gaining strength and haven't put on any fat really.
    yeah ive been keeping up with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Lately I have been feeling "off" per se. I did not dose mecha this morning and felt really good today at work, I dosed 75mg around 4 and 50mg just now and will see how that works out. I've got around 5 days left and have to say I'm completely exhausted and getting annoyed with the constant pump feeling. I struggle putting on my seat belt and all my clothes are now too small, plus the ole' lady hates my new size. Trying to consume 3000 plus cals everyday is also taking its toll on me mentally and I'm ready to start pct and then a nice deload.

    Side note: I'm wondering if adding ostarine during pct will help keep me anabolic and allow me to drop a few cals.
    Getting sick of the pump feeling, why thats one Ive never heard before lol. I do feel you on consuming so many cals though. Im currently bulking at my metabolism is fast as hell being that Im naturally and ectomorph and pounding through 3500-4000cals a day is getting somewhat tiresome and annoying. For once I actually can wait to start my cut and slowly start dieting down rather than just shovelling food down my throat all day.
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    well i have short, large arms including large forearms and being "pumped" sometimes hurts. ive decided my next cycle will be ultradrol/tren
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    today marks the last dose of mecha, will post a final review after work
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    today marks the last dose of mecha, will post a final review after work
    Oh the dreaded last dose
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    officially took last dose, heres is my experience in a nut shell:

    dosing went 75/100/100/100/100/125/125 mecha, 0/600/600/800/800/1000/1000 stano in which im running for 2 more weeks before pct. starting weight was 171 and today i weighed in at 187 in the nude. i also appear somewhat leaner in the midsection and the added mass is extremely noticeable. my calorie surplus was in the 500-1000 range and calorie counting was randomly performed, i did not always hit my macros and missed doses here and there along with the cycle supports.
    sides
    besides initial headaches, none! no sides whatsoever, not even backpumps.
    strength
    every single exercises were alot heavier than ever before and were performed with ease. i did not shoot for any pr's as my only goal was size. although along with the strength and heavy lifts my forearms were randomly sore along with knees.
    size
    gained 16lbs, kinda speaks for itself. i plateau'd at 187 and was hoping for 190 but just became extremely exhausted and had no interest on increasing cals.
    recovery
    was in the gym 6 days a week and recovery was insane, zero doms and sometimes i hit legs every other day as they are my weakpoint. very rarely was i sore.
    water retention
    minimal at best which will easily come off during pct

    over all im very happy with the outcome and really pleased with the zero sides. im sad to see its discontinued but have the up most faith that more fantastic products will be available. im looking forward to my next run with ultradrol.

    pct will consist of:
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    and so on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    officially took last dose, heres is my experience in a nut shell:

    dosing went 75/100/100/100/100/125/125 mecha, 0/600/600/800/800/1000/1000 stano in which im running for 2 more weeks before pct. starting weight was 171 and today i weighed in at 187 in the nude. i also appear somewhat leaner in the midsection and the added mass is extremely noticeable. my calorie surplus was in the 500-1000 range and calorie counting was randomly performed, i did not always hit my macros and missed doses here and there along with the cycle supports.
    sides
    besides initial headaches, none! no sides whatsoever, not even backpumps.
    strength
    every single exercises were alot heavier than ever before and were performed with ease. i did not shoot for any pr's as my only goal was size. although along with the strength and heavy lifts my forearms were randomly sore along with knees.
    size
    gained 16lbs, kinda speaks for itself. i plateau'd at 187 and was hoping for 190 but just became extremely exhausted and had no interest on increasing cals.
    recovery
    was in the gym 6 days a week and recovery was insane, zero doms and sometimes i hit legs every other day as they are my weakpoint. very rarely was i sore.
    water retention
    minimal at best which will easily come off during pct

    over all im very happy with the outcome and really pleased with the zero sides. im sad to see its discontinued but have the up most faith that more fantastic products will be available. im looking forward to my next run with ultradrol.

    pct will consist of:
    nolva
    erase
    daa
    ostarine
    zma
    creatine
    and so on....
    16lbs is no joke! Nice job hvac! I see you did decide to throw osta into your pct, cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech
    officially took last dose, heres is my experience in a nut shell:

    dosing went 75/100/100/100/100/125/125 mecha, 0/600/600/800/800/1000/1000 stano in which im running for 2 more weeks before pct. starting weight was 171 and today i weighed in at 187 in the nude. i also appear somewhat leaner in the midsection and the added mass is extremely noticeable. my calorie surplus was in the 500-1000 range and calorie counting was randomly performed, i did not always hit my macros and missed doses here and there along with the cycle supports.
    sides
    besides initial headaches, none! no sides whatsoever, not even backpumps.
    strength
    every single exercises were alot heavier than ever before and were performed with ease. i did not shoot for any pr's as my only goal was size. although along with the strength and heavy lifts my forearms were randomly sore along with knees.
    size
    gained 16lbs, kinda speaks for itself. i plateau'd at 187 and was hoping for 190 but just became extremely exhausted and had no interest on increasing cals.
    recovery
    was in the gym 6 days a week and recovery was insane, zero doms and sometimes i hit legs every other day as they are my weakpoint. very rarely was i sore.
    water retention
    minimal at best which will easily come off during pct

    over all im very happy with the outcome and really pleased with the zero sides. im sad to see its discontinued but have the up most faith that more fantastic products will be available. im looking forward to my next run with ultradrol.

    pct will consist of:
    nolva
    erase
    daa
    ostarine
    zma
    creatine
    and so on....
    very nice results man good work. your pct should be smooth
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    yeah imma try ostarine and hope i can lower some cals while maintaining/ adding some more size. pct will turn into a natty stack until next cycle in which im looking for recomp effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    officially took last dose, heres is my experience in a nut shell:

    dosing went 75/100/100/100/100/125/125 mecha, 0/600/600/800/800/1000/1000 stano in which im running for 2 more weeks before pct. starting weight was 171 and today i weighed in at 187 in the nude. i also appear somewhat leaner in the midsection and the added mass is extremely noticeable. my calorie surplus was in the 500-1000 range and calorie counting was randomly performed, i did not always hit my macros and missed doses here and there along with the cycle supports.
    sides
    besides initial headaches, none! no sides whatsoever, not even backpumps.
    strength
    every single exercises were alot heavier than ever before and were performed with ease. i did not shoot for any pr's as my only goal was size. although along with the strength and heavy lifts my forearms were randomly sore along with knees.
    size
    gained 16lbs, kinda speaks for itself. i plateau'd at 187 and was hoping for 190 but just became extremely exhausted and had no interest on increasing cals.
    recovery
    was in the gym 6 days a week and recovery was insane, zero doms and sometimes i hit legs every other day as they are my weakpoint. very rarely was i sore.
    water retention
    minimal at best which will easily come off during pct

    over all im very happy with the outcome and really pleased with the zero sides. im sad to see its discontinued but have the up most faith that more fantastic products will be available. im looking forward to my next run with ultradrol.

    pct will consist of:
    nolva
    erase
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    ostarine
    zma
    creatine
    and so on....

    man, awesome review! you absolutely killed this cycle, 16lbs is unbelievable!!
    good work my brother

    on a side note i had no idea they discontinued this stuff.. looks like im gonna have to snatch up a couple bottles before its gone..
    also, ostarine will treat you right bro.. good luck with the post cycle
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    so.....sunday night caught a nasty stomach virus and as of this morning im down 2 lbs, go figure right. today i will slowly consume my normal cals and possibly a small surplus to compensate. the 2 lbs however is all fluid weight but i feel extremely week. still managed to keep the stano down
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    so.....sunday night caught a nasty stomach virus and as of this morning im down 2 lbs, go figure right. today i will slowly consume my normal cals and possibly a small surplus to compensate. the 2 lbs however is all fluid weight but i feel extremely week. still managed to keep the stano down
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    it basically has. hittin the gym tonight, one noticable thing since mecha is over is the muscle hardness/fullness has deminished. dont really feel anything off the stano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    it basically has. hittin the gym tonight, one noticable thing since mecha is over is the muscle hardness/fullness has deminished. dont really feel anything off the stano.
    Id bet that the stano is helping to keep your energy up and should help with recovery too. I'd think at 1g/day you'd get some hardening effect too but maybe you're just feeling flat by comparison to the mecha
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    actually i will be running 1200mg. im also feeling flat due to being somewhat ill
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    actually i will be running 1200mg. im also feeling flat due to being somewhat ill
    yeah that will definitely do it too.
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    just got my appetite back, went down 5lbs. extreme loss of motivation and have to decided to re configure my diet and continue stano for the remainder 1.5 weeks, then pct, then a slow steady cut till summer. on a good note, joints feel alot better and feel overall more "normal" but definately a loss of ego with the flat feeling, i didnt realize how swole mecha makes you feel until ive been off for a few days now. i will continue my cals in the 2700-3000 from now and until end of pct. besides maybe some strength gains i dont notice stano much at all, if anything it is helping me to maintain while i was sick in which is a good thing to say the least.
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    calorie rehab:

    tons of pb
    gallon of milk
    few shakes
    huge solid meal

    back to 184
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    Now that it has been awhile since the completion of your cycle I was wondering how much of the gains in mass/strength you kept after pct.

    I'm currently on week 4 of 6 and hoping to keep most of my gains. Gone from 184-194 thus far
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    Im still maintaining at 183. Im currently in a cal deficient so strength is slightly lower but over all i havent " lost" anything....
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    Excellent news! Thank you sir!
  

  
 

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