Thanks for the advice, are you aware of anyone that carries that in a product? 4 grams per day of mushrooms seems like a lot haha have you tried them before? What about forskholin? Any benefit on cycle or post?
Sure,I'm glad to be of some help.Smartpowders offers bulk cordyceps on the cheap.
Well,my...cough,cough,pet hamster last tried SP's cordy powder at 5 grams starting on the 10th day of a 6 week cycle of a test propionate + anavar cycle and it did seem to have HCG mimetic properties,though I did not have bloodwork done on my hamster.
Note that SP offers the C4 strain of cordyceps and not the militaris strain;the militaris strain was what was used in the study WRT its endocrine effects.I am not sure
just how much of the militaris strain is present in cordyceps C4,offhand.
A word on dosing,4 grams is the amount that a man around 200 pounds would need for its HCG mimetic properties.This seems like a lot but it is not.In reality,I have yet to see a cordyceps supplement on the market that was not severely underdosed,supplement companies tend to go the shotgun/kitchen sink angle and under dose actives.
If you really look over all of the studies on Pubmed WRT cordyceps,you'll see it has a lot of endurance benefits, but the studies had conflicting results.I am wholly sure that the studies which showed little to no improvement in exercise capacity either had design flaws and/or insufficient dosing protocols were used.
That said,this is where the 4 grams of cordy militaris comes into play,which is directly based off the rodent data.
As far as forskolin in any setting,I am not impressed with it as much as I was a few years back.
Here is a good qoute which brought the much too likely undesirable effects of forskolin to my attention.The whole thread can be viewed here..
http://mindandmuscle.net/forum/20392-forskolin-crude
The more I read about it the more I think that forskolin is not the panacea.
its actually better used as a nootropic but for long term fat loss it may be detrimental as it leads to water retention. water retention induced angII will offset via the HPA and directly long term benefits induced by thyroid
hypothesis
with forskolin take some ace inhibtors (bad solution) or even better high dose vitamin D.
I'm going to try this myself, and stop ODing on forskolin. I now think it stalls my VAT loss. further more it ****s up your phenotype as ANGII has positive feedback on its Mrna everywhere, your MR gets saturated...
you never feel this via BP because Forskolin also vasolidates the arteries, BUT you feel the artificial hyponatremia by drinking less. man, I barely drink water on forskolin, my throat is dry as **** and I'm not thirsty
now I know why.
OK this really sucks.
I need something else for my thyroid needs.
