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    Androfactory NATURAL LINE!


    Androfactory has brought you safe legal phs but now we are changing the game again. I dont have an exact release date but the natural line "should" be ready by early next year.

    Lets talk about what your favorite natural ingredients are. Im interested to see everyone's opinion. Cop aka the endurance king as of now for me personally is one of my favorite ingredient.

    Please list some favorite ingredients of yours!
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    COP, Citrulline Malate, LCLT, Beta Alinine
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Hica
    How has the response been on this anyhow?...I never researched it a whole lot. I can get my hands on a couple of cheap jugs I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post

    How has the response been on this anyhow?...I never researched it a whole lot. I can get my hands on a couple of cheap jugs I think.
    Surprisingly positive. In my opinion atleast. Good research behind it
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    Ive also always been a fan of 5 htp
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    Here are a few of my personal test booster/OTC favs off the top of my head,,with good research behind them....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    Here are a few of my personal test booster/OTC favs off the top of my head,,with good research behind them....
    Trans-Resveratrol
    7,8-Benzoflavone
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    Do you stack these ? Tried oral and/or transdermal ?

    I love resveratrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post

    How has the response been on this anyhow?...I never researched it a whole lot. I can get my hands on a couple of cheap jugs I think.
    The muscle preservation benefits is what intrigues me.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    The muscle preservation benefits is what intrigues me.....
    This.
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    Also im getting some interest in forskolin as of recently.
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    Most of my favorites have already been listed:
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Also im getting some interest in forskolin as of recently.
    Same here.
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    COP, Beta Alanine, 5-HTP, and Phenibut are at the top of my list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Also im getting some interest in forskolin as of recently.
    ^^^ this. Sounds very interesting, I think I'm going to have to buy some and see what the fuss is all about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    ^^^ this. Sounds very interesting, I think I'm going to have to buy some and see what the fuss is all about
    Ordered some for my upcoming 24 week cut. Gonna be epic haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Ordered some for my upcoming 24 week cut. Gonna be epic haha
    24 week cut that sounds serious. Are you prepping for a show. Look very cut in your Avi already
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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post

    24 week cut that sounds serious. Are you prepping for a show. Look very cut in your Avi already
    I want to get 7% or below. My record is 6. Then gain size for 5 to 9 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    Ordered some for my upcoming 24 week cut. Gonna be epic haha
    24 week cut? Damn man I love my food too much to go on a caloric deficit for that long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    24 week cut? Damn man I love my food too much to go on a caloric deficit for that long.

    First and foremost. I got those cheat meals on deck. Five guys,Chinese buffet,subway,chilis,outback steak house,little ceasers,and dairy Queen is just a few to name.

    Second..
    24 weeks vs being over 18%body fat. Made my choice haha.

    I plan on getting shredded then getting bigger. Forskolin,alphamine,bulk na rala,bcaas ,ec,erase and some anabolic goodies such as lean cuts should ensure victory over my abs that have become a 4 almost 2 pack as recently. 6 pack here I come again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    First and foremost. I got those cheat meals on deck. Five guys,Chinese buffet,subway,chilis,outback steak house,little ceasers,and dairy Queen is just a few to name.

    Second..
    24 weeks vs being over 18%body fat. Made my choice haha.

    I plan on getting shredded then getting bigger. Forskolin,alphamine,bulk na rala,bcaas ,ec,erase and some anabolic goodies such as lean cuts should ensure victory over my abs that have become a 4 almost 2 pack as recently. 6 pack here I come again!
    Haha sounds like you've got the plan!! I share your sentiments re the disappearing six pack lol I can see my cut going till around Xmas before ill be happy with what I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Also im getting some interest in forskolin as of recently.
    This should be in any PCT type product you guys formulate, seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    This should be in any PCT type product you guys formulate, seriously.
    Never tried it in PCT but I just finished a bottle and its good stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post

    This should be in any PCT type product you guys formulate, seriously.
    Forskolin,daa and lclt in one ))))
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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    Never tried it in PCT but I just finished a bottle and its good stuff
    "one of the best compounds available for triggering dramatic increases in cAMP levels. One study (Bristow et al, 1984) showed that forskolin was able to increase cAMP levels 4.82 times more than a placebo."... "high cAMP levels also equate to high levels of luteinizing hormone (the hormone responsible for mediating endogenous spermatogenesis), and when cAMP levels are elevated (DRIVE causes a marked elevation of cAMP), it serves as an intermediate in the signaling cascade that ranges from luteinizing hormone (LH) binding to testosterone production."


    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Forskolin,daa and lclt in one ))))
    No DAA. I'd do Eurycoma Longifolia and Forskolin for sure though.
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    Methyl E-Aspartic Acid. Stuff blows DAA out of the water (at least at 90mg/day, the way I used it). Got stronger even as I shed fat in off-time, & definitely looked fuller/more vascular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Methyl E-Aspartic Acid. Stuff blows DAA out of the water (at least at 90mg/day, the way I used it). Got stronger even as I shed fat in off-time, & definitely looked fuller/more vascular.
    Being a methyl does it require cycle supports
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Methyl E-Aspartic Acid. Stuff blows DAA out of the water (at least at 90mg/day, the way I used it). Got stronger even as I shed fat in off-time, & definitely looked fuller/more vascular.
    That's nothing more than NMDA and from what coop says should never be used in the 90 mg range. I'm guessing you were using transform supplements Methyl EAA
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    That's nothing more than NMDA and from what coop says should never be used in the 90 mg range. I'm guessing you were using transform supplements Methyl EAA
    You're half right. To my understanding you are correct with the nomenclature - there's often more than one way to represent a chemical (i.e. methoxygonadiene often begins with 13-methyl, but can also be written 18-methyl). And I've heard this - but I was taking Athletic Xtreme's Mass FX Black for a sponsored log at the recommended dosage (4 caps/day). Zero sides except noticable shortness of temper & extreme hunger that seemed to come and go despite eating about maintenance & lots of healthy fats & veggies. No bloodwork during this so no idea for sure but I felt excellent in all regards.

    What does this tell us? I either tolerate NMDA @ 90mg for a month perfectly fine, or the product does not really contain the ingredients listed. It also contained 2g of nettle over 4 caps, & 7 methoxy flavone at good doses. So there's that to consider - both also great ingredients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Being a methyl does it require cycle supports
    is this serious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    is this serious?
    I doubt it, but for anyone wondering, no. I'd say it's negligable. Although most cycle support supps are general wellness supps that can be run virtually year-round for most people.
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    Interesting discussion never read up on it how long ago did you run it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    Interesting discussion never read up on it how long ago did you run it.
    Very recently, this summer. Maybe 3 months ago? Go to my profile & look under my started threads for the sponsored log if you're curious. It treated me well, but like I said there were a couple other ingredients at big doses too. In any case, going to try Iforces Intimidate SRT this next PCT to compare effects.
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    I'm definitely looking forward to the Sustain-x. It will be the perfect PCT product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I'm definitely looking forward to the Sustain-x. It will be the perfect PCT product.
    Stoked as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I'm definitely looking forward to the Sustain-x. It will be the perfect PCT product.
    Is this going to be similar to PP Sustain Alpha? What is the ETA on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I'm definitely looking forward to the Sustain-x. It will be the perfect PCT product.
    Is this going to be similar to PP Sustain Alpha? What is the ETA on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post

    Is this going to be similar to PP Sustain Alpha? What is the ETA on it?
    Soon brother. Ill try and find out more info!
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