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  1. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    Never tried it in PCT but I just finished a bottle and its good stuff
    "one of the best compounds available for triggering dramatic increases in cAMP levels. One study (Bristow et al, 1984) showed that forskolin was able to increase cAMP levels 4.82 times more than a placebo."... "high cAMP levels also equate to high levels of luteinizing hormone (the hormone responsible for mediating endogenous spermatogenesis), and when cAMP levels are elevated (DRIVE causes a marked elevation of cAMP), it serves as an intermediate in the signaling cascade that ranges from luteinizing hormone (LH) binding to testosterone production."


    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Forskolin,daa and lclt in one ))))
    No DAA. I'd do Eurycoma Longifolia and Forskolin for sure though.


  2. Methyl E-Aspartic Acid. Stuff blows DAA out of the water (at least at 90mg/day, the way I used it). Got stronger even as I shed fat in off-time, & definitely looked fuller/more vascular.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Methyl E-Aspartic Acid. Stuff blows DAA out of the water (at least at 90mg/day, the way I used it). Got stronger even as I shed fat in off-time, & definitely looked fuller/more vascular.
    Being a methyl does it require cycle supports
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Methyl E-Aspartic Acid. Stuff blows DAA out of the water (at least at 90mg/day, the way I used it). Got stronger even as I shed fat in off-time, & definitely looked fuller/more vascular.
    That's nothing more than NMDA and from what coop says should never be used in the 90 mg range. I'm guessing you were using transform supplements Methyl EAA

  5. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    That's nothing more than NMDA and from what coop says should never be used in the 90 mg range. I'm guessing you were using transform supplements Methyl EAA
    You're half right. To my understanding you are correct with the nomenclature - there's often more than one way to represent a chemical (i.e. methoxygonadiene often begins with 13-methyl, but can also be written 18-methyl). And I've heard this - but I was taking Athletic Xtreme's Mass FX Black for a sponsored log at the recommended dosage (4 caps/day). Zero sides except noticable shortness of temper & extreme hunger that seemed to come and go despite eating about maintenance & lots of healthy fats & veggies. No bloodwork during this so no idea for sure but I felt excellent in all regards.

    What does this tell us? I either tolerate NMDA @ 90mg for a month perfectly fine, or the product does not really contain the ingredients listed. It also contained 2g of nettle over 4 caps, & 7 methoxy flavone at good doses. So there's that to consider - both also great ingredients.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Being a methyl does it require cycle supports
    is this serious?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    is this serious?
    I doubt it, but for anyone wondering, no. I'd say it's negligable. Although most cycle support supps are general wellness supps that can be run virtually year-round for most people.
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  8. Interesting discussion never read up on it how long ago did you run it.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    Interesting discussion never read up on it how long ago did you run it.
    Very recently, this summer. Maybe 3 months ago? Go to my profile & look under my started threads for the sponsored log if you're curious. It treated me well, but like I said there were a couple other ingredients at big doses too. In any case, going to try Iforces Intimidate SRT this next PCT to compare effects.
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  10. I'm definitely looking forward to the Sustain-x. It will be the perfect PCT product.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I'm definitely looking forward to the Sustain-x. It will be the perfect PCT product.
    Stoked as well
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  12. COP
    Forskolin
    Cissus quadrangularis
    7 Keto DHEA (topical)
    Ursolic Acid (more soluble topical form)
    Anacyclus pyrethrum DC (root) Extract
    Creatine

  13. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I'm definitely looking forward to the Sustain-x. It will be the perfect PCT product.
    Is this going to be similar to PP Sustain Alpha? What is the ETA on it?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I'm definitely looking forward to the Sustain-x. It will be the perfect PCT product.
    Is this going to be similar to PP Sustain Alpha? What is the ETA on it?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post

    Is this going to be similar to PP Sustain Alpha? What is the ETA on it?
    Soon brother. Ill try and find out more info!
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    Is this going to be similar to PP Sustain Alpha? What is the ETA on it?
    Yes,it is.

  17. Per my understanding it will be simliar but better. Should be out after the first of the year some time
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  18. Early next year. Ask for sustain funds for xmas people!
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  19. This might have to make my spring stack
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  20. I have a hunch it's going to be the feel good product of the new year.
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