My P-Bold and Lean cut log

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    Most shoulder pain is from connective tissues which won't be affected much from androgens. Some people have some luck with sarms.
    True,although oxadrolone does have a positive effect on bone tissue,got an abstract on it I can post up if you're interested.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    The shoulder is such a complex joint, pain could be from anything, impingement syndrome, bursitis, partial thickness tear, full thickness tear the list goes on, the only way to be certain is to have an MRI done.
    Well said,that sums things up things nicely.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jdam View Post
    Thanks for the reply Colin. Sorry to hear about your shoulder. Anything that gets in the way of training sucks, but hopefully it won't get in the way too much. I am able to bench and do weighted dips without pain - I just laid off the shoulder press. I hope to add it again, but for now I'm playing it safe.
    No worries,I was foolishly overzealous and caused the injury myself.it is what it is,I'll get surgery eventually.
    It's your call but if you really do want to play it safe,I would suggest dropping benching in favor of DB floor pressing and dropping weighted dips in favor of higher rep rope pulldowns.Weighted dips place a lot of undue stress on the RC's,as does traditional bench pressing.You can still go heavy on floorpressing,the range of motion is much more carefully controlled than flat benching as the floor is there to keep your shoulders in line with your pressing.For that matter,you can go heavier on rope pulldowns as well,the trick is to keep meticulous form.Stand perfectly straight with no leaniing inward or swaying and that will help immensely.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    No worries,I was foolishly overzealous and caused the injury myself.it is what it is,I'll get surgery eventually.
    It's your call but if you really do want to play it safe,I would suggest dropping benching in favor of DB floor pressing and dropping weighted dips in favor of higher rep rope pulldowns.Weighted dips place a lot of undue stress on the RC's,as does traditional bench pressing.You can still go heavy on floorpressing,the range of motion is much more carefully controlled than flat benching as the floor is there to keep your shoulders in line with your pressing.For that matter,you can go heavier on rope pulldowns as well,the trick is to keep meticulous form.Stand perfectly straight with no leaniing inward or swaying and that will help immensely.
    I think it really depends on what type of injury it is. I messed up my shoulder being over zealous myself, benching isn't a problem for me it more overhead pressing.
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  4. i want to start doing this stack soon used super dmz 2, sten-zine and epi before got good results kept most of it, i know how to diet and i smash like 3 bcaa drinks a day so muscle loss is minimum do you think its possible to lose 3-4% while keeping size with these, im roughly 11% atm over a 6-8 week period of HIIT workouts

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Sparta12 View Post
    i want to start doing this stack soon used super dmz 2, sten-zine and epi before got good results kept most of it, i know how to diet and i smash like 3 bcaa drinks a day so muscle loss is minimum do you think its possible to lose 3-4% while keeping size with these, im roughly 11% atm over a 6-8 week period of HIIT workouts
    3-4% is a lot when your already as lean as you are but these are a good choice. It will ultimately come down to you and how your body reacts. There are definitely guys out there that could accomplish what your looking to do. Just really go for it you'll love the results.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post

    3-4% is a lot when your already as lean as you are but these are a good choice. It will ultimately come down to you and how your body reacts. There are definitely guys out there that could accomplish what your looking to do. Just really go for it you'll love the results.
    Yeah ino the lower you get, the harder to lose that extra % but I'm going to destroy myself. Stocking up on lean foods n shiz

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Sparta12 View Post
    Yeah ino the lower you get, the harder to lose that extra % but I'm going to destroy myself. Stocking up on lean foods n shiz
    Right,it will not be easy to lose 3-4% b/f at your level of leaness over 6-8 weeks but with diet,training and hormonal assistance on point,it is doable.With a stack of P-Bold + Lean Cut,you have two powerful androgenic compounds that will surely stave off muscle loss and allow you to retain muscular size/volume.

    It sounds like you may just be thinking of performing HIIT over these 6-8 weeks?You seem like an advanced trainee so I'd think you probably know this already but even with androgen usage you cannot only be performing HIIT workouts,you still need to lift to spare LBM.

    I will go so far as to say that P-Bold + Lean Cuts will not only allow you to maintain your LBM but also,they will help you gain LBM over 6-8 weeks of hard dieting......granted,I am not suggesting you'll be packing on 10 pounds of muscle over those 6-8 weeks but if you train intelligently,you will see an appreciable recomposition.

    Using androgens while dieting will certainly allow for more intense work outs and will help keep positivity high.....dieting sucks a bag of dicks without the reinforcement of much more drastic,readily apparent physical changes in body composition as one sees when using such a stack of strong androgenic compounds.With androgens that keep hormonal and cortisol levels at optimum functioning,you will have a sound sense of well being and a steady reserve of vigor.

    Do not skimp on PCT though,I would suggest toremifine along with DAA.

    6-OXO is always good too,if you can get it at a decent price.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    Right,it will not be easy to lose 3-4% b/f at your level of leaness over 6-8 weeks but with diet,training and hormonal assistance on point,it is doable.With a stack of P-Bold + Lean Cut,you have two powerful androgenic compounds that will surely stave off muscle loss and allow you to retain muscular size/volume.

    It sounds like you may just be thinking of performing HIIT over these 6-8 weeks?You seem like an advanced trainee so I'd think you probably know this already but even with androgen usage you cannot only be performing HIIT workouts,you still need to lift to spare LBM.

    I will go so far as to say that P-Bold + Lean Cuts will not only allow you to maintain your LBM but also,they will help you gain LBM over 6-8 weeks of hard dieting......granted,I am not suggesting you'll be packing on 10 pounds of muscle over those 6-8 weeks but if you train intelligently,you will see an appreciable recomposition.

    Using androgens while dieting will certainly allow for more intense work outs and will help keep positivity high.....dieting sucks a bag of dicks without the reinforcement of much more drastic,readily apparent physical changes in body composition as one sees when using such a stack of strong androgenic compounds.With androgens that keep hormonal and cortisol levels at optimum functioning,you will have a sound sense of well being and a steady reserve of vigor.

    Do not skimp on PCT though,I would suggest toremifine along with DAA.

    6-OXO is always good too,if you can get it at a decent price.
    thanks for all the information man! yeah i was think of HIIT for 2-3 days and weights for 4-5 still high intensity 30second rest etc... for pct im going torem,daa, erase pro and anabeta for 8 weeks minus torem (4weeks) to try and maintain and gain if possible haha. Diet will be on point and ill be smashing bcaa all day (get them cheap so i use it all the time now, it really helps minimizing fat for me!) looking forward to starting probs around december 16

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    Right,it will not be easy to lose 3-4% b/f at your level of leaness over 6-8 weeks but with diet,training and hormonal assistance on point,it is doable.With a stack of P-Bold + Lean Cut,you have two powerful androgenic compounds that will surely stave off muscle loss and allow you to retain muscular size/volume.

    It sounds like you may just be thinking of performing HIIT over these 6-8 weeks?You seem like an advanced trainee so I'd think you probably know this already but even with androgen usage you cannot only be performing HIIT workouts,you still need to lift to spare LBM.

    I will go so far as to say that P-Bold + Lean Cuts will not only allow you to maintain your LBM but also,they will help you gain LBM over 6-8 weeks of hard dieting......granted,I am not suggesting you'll be packing on 10 pounds of muscle over those 6-8 weeks but if you train intelligently,you will see an appreciable recomposition.

    Using androgens while dieting will certainly allow for more intense work outs and will help keep positivity high.....dieting sucks a bag of dicks without the reinforcement of much more drastic,readily apparent physical changes in body composition as one sees when using such a stack of strong androgenic compounds.With androgens that keep hormonal and cortisol levels at optimum functioning,you will have a sound sense of well being and a steady reserve of vigor.

    Do not skimp on PCT though,I would suggest toremifine along with DAA.

    6-OXO is always good too,if you can get it at a decent price.
    btw my hiit training is like crossfit.... basically band sprints. sledge hammer hits, tyre flips, kb swings... none of that kipping though haha
  

  
 

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