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  1.  08-01-2008  11:54 AM
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    Retain and Retain 2


    what are the differences?



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    The original retain was designed with hardcore PH cycles in mind controlling elevated cortisol levels during your PCT. Retain2 was designed for more fat loss due to elevated cortisol levels from physical and mental stress. Although the focus of Retain2 was geared more to weight loss it can also be used as a part of your PCT regiment for PH cycles.

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    The original Retain was licensed from ALRI so naturally a newer version had to come out when the license expired.

    The original contained tyramine, b-triol, and clary sage.

    Retain2 contained 7-oxo, b-triol, and Relora.

    As GITRDONE, mentioned, the original was designed for use in PCT as cortisol control. After the license was over, new research came out on things to lower cortisol with (i.e. relora), and such were used to make the new Retain2.
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    Playing devil's advocate...

    So if I'm sitting here staring at a bottle of each, unopened and glaring back at me, which one would you go with for a particular PCT? For example, match the proper retain to the proper PH/PS/DS:

    3-AD
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    Mdrol
    Hdrol
    Pplex
    other?

    I figure these would be the most asked, so I thought I might pop them in here. Actually, I'm admittedly naive in the subject area. Without going into detail, can you match 'em up there for us all???

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    so if retain is a corto. blocker why was it the norm to stack with hyper and fx? I was under the Assumption they didnt need a AI type med

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    Retain was a part of the Ultimate Mass Cycle to help you make lean gains. Retain2 helps keep your body in a anabolic state by controlling negative cortisol levels.

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    Originally Posted by IceT View Post
    so if retain is a corto. blocker why was it the norm to stack with hyper and fx? I was under the Assumption they didnt need a AI type med

    Controlling cortisol improves nitrogen retention.

    By stacking the 3 products (MassFX, Hyperdrol, & Retain) together, we have 3 products providing a potent anabolic pathway independent of the other 2.
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    Where can I buy Retain2, the main websites are all out of stock, can anyone link me to a website that has Retain2available... Need it for my Pulse cycle... thanks

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    Originally Posted by NeedMassNow View Post
    Where can I buy Retain2, the main websites are all out of stock, can anyone link me to a website that has Retain2available... Need it for my Pulse cycle... thanks

    Retain2 isn't being sold by any online retailers as far as I know. It's actually going to be replaced with a new product sometime in the future. In the mean time you can get some Lean Xtreme by designer supplements it's pretty much the same thing as Retain2.

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    Thanks man, greatly appreciate it.. So I can use it to replace retain 2 in my Epi pulse cycle to control cortisol on "OFF" days, right?

  11.  08-09-2008  10:43 AM
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    Yup Lean Xtreme would be a good replacement for Retain2 for your cycle

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