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    GLYCOBOL QUESTION


    Hey there AI, I love the Glycobol product. It's day 3 for me and I am really starting to like what you guys are doing.

    Quick question though. Ever since I started Glycobol 3 days ago (2 caps, 2x a day), I can't stop pissing out my butt.

    I'm on the toilet at least 5-6x a day... crapping out water.



    ... Normal? How long do I have to live?

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    this is normal for some. its due to the berberine content.

    my suggestion is tapering up the dose 1 cap every 2 days.

    start with 1 cap 2x a day for 2 days, then 1 cap 3x a day for 2 days, then 1 cap 4x a day for 2 days,

    depending on how your body reacts you can then do up to 2 caps 2x a day.

    if that doesnt work, i found that taking it WITH meals LOW in carbs, i didnt get those issues, my body became used to it, then when i added in my carbs i had zero issues what so ever.
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    Ok thank you.

    Im using it as a bulk though, and Ive read that it is crucial to take it with the 50-100g carb meal. Otherwise you wont get the effect.

    Am I wrong?
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    well you wont get the super compensation effect with no carbs, however you can still achieve tolerance from it after a little while.

    if your bulking take 1 cap with 35-60 carbs, untill you get used to it,

    that should help
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    Also, tinker with the timing between dose and eating.
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    very tru, sometimes if im not warmin up to it as quickly as id like to id take it WITH my meal.
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    I had the same issue prior.

    This is what I learned from toying with it.

    -Starting off use 1 cap only

    -Take it 15 minutes and under, I am able to avoid the "pissing out of my ass."

    -If I eat pure carbs with no proteins, or fats. I will ending up shooting water

    Good luck on your journey.
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    Good suggestions in here.... couldnt have said it better myself
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    I always suggest 1 cap twice a day for a couple of days. Glycobol is potent stuff.
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    Has any one tried using it before dosing hghpro or your favorite hgh supplement?

    I read some thing some where where it says doing this causes the hgh releaser to be more effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    Has any one tried using it before dosing hghpro or your favorite hgh supplement?

    I read some thing some where where it says doing this causes the hgh releaser to be more effective.
    That is very interesting. I am sure someone will end up trying it and it will be interesting to hear their thoughts.
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    The main caveat of that would be that you generally want to wait ~1 hr before eating carbs on GH booster. I suppose if the dosing was like this:
    ~1 hr pre-meal: GH booster
    ~45 mins later: 1-2 caps Glycobol
    Eat

    It could, in theory, help to lessen the amount of insulin released, but you can't forget the anabolic activity of insulin.

    IMO, a great option would be to take it ~30 mins before training (along with a stim, of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    The main caveat of that would be that you generally want to wait ~1 hr before eating carbs on GH booster. I suppose if the dosing was like this:
    ~1 hr pre-meal: GH booster
    ~45 mins later: 1-2 caps Glycobol
    Eat

    It could, in theory, help to lessen the amount of insulin released, but you can't forget the anabolic activity of insulin.

    IMO, a great option would be to take it ~30 mins before training (along with a stim, of course).
    It was something else I read on a bodybuilding.com thread. I think DR.D said something like on an empty stomach(1-2 hours of no food before bed) take Glycobol, wait a while and proceed to take HGHpro.

    Something about making the insulin or blood sugar or something go low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    Has any one tried using it before dosing hghpro or your favorite hgh supplement?

    I read some thing some where where it says doing this causes the hgh releaser to be more effective.
    could be tru during fasted cardio as well as BCAAs and pre bed
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    ^^^Nice. Beat me to it

    Hey Fatal Funnel, just throwing this out there. You might want to stop taking the Glycobol for about three days before trying the tapering. I don't have any issues with Glycobol as long as the fat content of my meal isn't too high. After using it regularly for a while I seem to be able to dose it pretty much in any manner that I want...it might just take a little time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    ^^^Nice. Beat me to it

    Hey Fatal Funnel, just throwing this out there. You might want to stop taking the Glycobol for about three days before trying the tapering. I don't have any issues with Glycobol as long as the fat content of my meal isn't too high. After using it regularly for a while I seem to be able to dose it pretty much in any manner that I want...it might just take a little time.
    i believe on refeeds i was up to 12 gbol and 6 AP on refeeds with no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    i believe on refeeds i was up to 12 gbol and 6 AP on refeeds with no issues.
    Damn


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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Damn


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    LOL only crazyfool will do what others will not haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    i believe on refeeds i was up to 12 gbol and 6 AP on refeeds with no issues.
    gbol 4 ap 2 for 3 meals each?

    Never tried Gycobol at 3 caps +, not even sure if I want to experiment above 2. Pretty potent stuff I must say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    LOL only crazyfool will do what others will not haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    gbol 4 ap 2 for 3 meals each?

    Never tried Gycobol at 3 caps +, not even sure if I want to experiment above 2. Pretty potent stuff I must say.
    i did 2gbol and 1 AP per meal, 6 meals.
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    Thumbs up Glycobol at night


    I loved taking glycobol at night with an empty stomach. I had a lot of success with doing it but unfortunately I only did it for about a week towards the end of the bottle. After my Hghpro I'm probably going to get another bottle and do that again. Everyone is different but I never had any stomach issues and slept really well. I recommend giving it a try.
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    i'm currently taking the glycobol and shooting water sometimes....but it's not really a big deal....and it's no where close to the old superpump lol....i do notice after the gym and my protein that i'm in the bathroom and i don't even dose pre workout....wish i had another bottle to play with the dosing, pre workout and pre bed but i'm enjoying taking it with food....the only reason i don't know about taking it with hgh products is i thought insulin actually limits the effectiveness of hgh products and thats why they say no carbs before you take them and even no whey because it could lead to an increase in insulin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Orange View Post
    I loved taking glycobol at night with an empty stomach. I had a lot of success with doing it but unfortunately I only did it for about a week towards the end of the bottle. After my Hghpro I'm probably going to get another bottle and do that again. Everyone is different but I never had any stomach issues and slept really well. I recommend giving it a try.
    That is a new one on me. I am happy it worked well for you. I still recommend that people take this 15-30 minutes before a meal that contains at least 50g of carbs(complex would be best)
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    I was thinking about adding Slin-Shot to Glycobol...any problems with this? I'd go with AP but AP is just too pricey
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    I was thinking about adding Slin-Shot to Glycobol...any problems with this? I'd go with AP but AP is just too pricey
    Possible redundancy. What's the label?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Possible redundancy. What's the label?
    Sorry it's not Slin-Shot, it's Slin-Sane...been looking at too many supplements today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Sorry it's not Slin-Shot, it's Slin-Sane...been looking at too many supplements today.

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    That would probably be overkill and may cause you to crash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    That would probably be overkill and may cause you to crash.
    So is AP the only way to go if you're stacking another GDA with Gbol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    That is a new one on me. I am happy it worked well for you. I still recommend that people take this 15-30 minutes before a meal that contains at least 50g of carbs(complex would be best)
    Dr.D was talking about using Glycobol in this manner with some BCAAs in order to enhance HGH output.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    So is AP the only way to go if you're stacking another GDA with Gbol?
    I want to say that some of the previous reps were using Glycobol with P-Slin. I'll be honest with you though. I've never really looked into P-Slin and I'm not sure how it works. Maybe somebody else can chime in about the efficacy of combining these two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    I want to say that some of the previous reps were using Glycobol with P-Slin. I'll be honest with you though. I've never really looked into P-Slin and I'm not sure how it works. Maybe somebody else can chime in about the efficacy of combining these two.
    Sure why not!

    Well first off before anything just to gain a better scope of your goals i think I would like to ask the following questions DarkHalf:

    You seem very keen on stacking partitioners...why?
    1) Have you used these paritioners in the past with little result?
    2) Are you trying to gain as much mass as possible b/c ur a so called "hard gainer"?
    3) Do you feel the more ingredients/more in a stack the better?
    4) What are you looking to accomplish by stacking these partitioners? Losing fat? Gaining muscle? getting strong? Overall health?


    This will give me a better idea on how to approach ur question.

    As far as personal experience goes with partitioners, i have using Anabolic Pump, P-slin, and Glycobol. All are very effective at what they do. I am now currently usuing Glycobol.

    As far as ingredients go: Anabolic Pump and P-slin focus on shuttling carbs and nutrients to the muscle. This is what creates that pump effect while on Anabolic Pump that some users experience. These are highly specialized formula's with the purpose of loading the muscles with carbs.

    Slin-sane looks to be somewhat similar to anabolic pump with the addition of Norvalline. I have never used this product so i dont know how this ingredient adds to the supplement. If you want to know how the two products supposedly differ i suggest going to the USP labs section for the reps there are much more knowledgable then myself and can aid you in making a differentiation.

    As far as Glycobol goes...you are looking at beast that works via several mechanism to produce an array of effects: A) partitioning of nutrients B) Increasing the bodies anabolic environment via increase in protein synthesis
    C) Lowers excess glucose left over after partitioning D) lowers lipid lowers to prevent fat accumulation


    As far as stacking is concerned, i have stacked partitioners ONLY during massive refeeds. I do not stack them on a normal basis nor do i think one would need to. But since everyone is different so if you have not already done so, try each one separately. Make a baseline observation for each. If you find one is particularly effective u can stick with it without stacking and save some cash. If not at which point u can then begin to tinker with doses.

    I would not recommend stacking on a normal daily basis b/c this is expensive and to a certain degree redundant. But for massive refeeds i may stack something like:

    Meal 1: 1 AP, 1 Glycobol
    Meal 2: 2 Glycobol
    Meall 3: 1Pslin 1 glycobol
    Meal 4: 2 glycobol
    Mind you these meals may habe up to 200grams of carbs each so i will add an extra pill of one or the other is im looking to down an entire pizza.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Sure why not!

    Well first off before anything just to gain a better scope of your goals i think I would like to ask the following questions DarkHalf:

    You seem very keen on stacking partitioners...why?

    Will be using them in PCT to help keep me looking full and perhaps get leaner while dieting down. The cycle i'm about to run is a cut and will cut the length of the cycle and through pct. I am also an endomorph that gets fat from eating too many carbs.

    1) Have you used these paritioners in the past with little result?

    Never used them before, however I used Gbol last weekend. I eat whatever on the weekends to break from my strict diet during the week. Monday morning I woke up at baseline which usually doesn't happen after a weekend of eating $hit

    2) Are you trying to gain as much mass as possible b/c ur a so called "hard gainer"?

    See above


    3) Do you feel the more ingredients/more in a stack the better?

    Yep. But more so if those ingredients work together in different ways to create a synergy that one product alone could not create by itself.

    4) What are you looking to accomplish by stacking these partitioners? Losing fat? Gaining muscle? getting strong? Overall health?

    Losing fat whilst eating more carbs to keep a full look while dieting. I am a low carb dieter during the week. 25g C from oats, 35g C from PWO supplement, and the rest occur naturally in my diet from veggies and natty PB

    This will give me a better idea on how to approach ur question.

    As far as personal experience goes with partitioners, i have using Anabolic Pump, P-slin, and Glycobol. All are very effective at what they do. I am now currently usuing Glycobol.

    As far as ingredients go: Anabolic Pump and P-slin focus on shuttling carbs and nutrients to the muscle. This is what creates that pump effect while on Anabolic Pump that some users experience. These are highly specialized formula's with the purpose of loading the muscles with carbs.

    Slin-sane looks to be somewhat similar to anabolic pump with the addition of Norvalline. I have never used this product so i dont know how this ingredient adds to the supplement. If you want to know how the two products supposedly differ i suggest going to the USP labs section for the reps there are much more knowledgable then myself and can aid you in making a differentiation.

    As far as Glycobol goes...you are looking at beast that works via several mechanism to produce an array of effects: A) partitioning of nutrients B) Increasing the bodies anabolic environment via increase in protein synthesis
    C) Lowers excess glucose left over after partitioning D) lowers lipid lowers to prevent fat accumulation


    As far as stacking is concerned, i have stacked partitioners ONLY during massive refeeds. I do not stack them on a normal basis nor do i think one would need to. But since everyone is different so if you have not already done so, try each one separately. Make a baseline observation for each. If you find one is particularly effective u can stick with it without stacking and save some cash. If not at which point u can then begin to tinker with doses.

    I would not recommend stacking on a normal daily basis b/c this is expensive and to a certain degree redundant. But for massive refeeds i may stack something like:

    I plan on using them mainly on sat/sun......and maybe mid-week like wed. I did buy some AP so i'll try that solo this weekend just to see how it works. They days I used it i'll spread my AP and Gbol throughout the day, using 4 of each. 1AP, 1Gbol with my heavier carb meals.

    Meal 1: 1 AP, 1 Glycobol
    Meal 2: 2 Glycobol
    Meall 3: 1Pslin 1 glycobol
    Meal 4: 2 glycobol
    Mind you these meals may habe up to 200grams of carbs each so i will add an extra pill of one or the other is im looking to down an entire pizza.


    Does this help you any?
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Sure why not!

    Well first off before anything just to gain a better scope of your goals i think I would like to ask the following questions DarkHalf:

    You seem very keen on stacking partitioners...why?
    1) Have you used these paritioners in the past with little result?
    2) Are you trying to gain as much mass as possible b/c ur a so called "hard gainer"?
    3) Do you feel the more ingredients/more in a stack the better?
    4) What are you looking to accomplish by stacking these partitioners? Losing fat? Gaining muscle? getting strong? Overall health?


    This will give me a better idea on how to approach ur question.

    As far as personal experience goes with partitioners, i have using Anabolic Pump, P-slin, and Glycobol. All are very effective at what they do. I am now currently usuing Glycobol.

    As far as ingredients go: Anabolic Pump and P-slin focus on shuttling carbs and nutrients to the muscle. This is what creates that pump effect while on Anabolic Pump that some users experience. These are highly specialized formula's with the purpose of loading the muscles with carbs.

    Slin-sane looks to be somewhat similar to anabolic pump with the addition of Norvalline. I have never used this product so i dont know how this ingredient adds to the supplement. If you want to know how the two products supposedly differ i suggest going to the USP labs section for the reps there are much more knowledgable then myself and can aid you in making a differentiation.

    As far as Glycobol goes...you are looking at beast that works via several mechanism to produce an array of effects: A) partitioning of nutrients B) Increasing the bodies anabolic environment via increase in protein synthesis
    C) Lowers excess glucose left over after partitioning D) lowers lipid lowers to prevent fat accumulation


    As far as stacking is concerned, i have stacked partitioners ONLY during massive refeeds. I do not stack them on a normal basis nor do i think one would need to. But since everyone is different so if you have not already done so, try each one separately. Make a baseline observation for each. If you find one is particularly effective u can stick with it without stacking and save some cash. If not at which point u can then begin to tinker with doses.

    I would not recommend stacking on a normal daily basis b/c this is expensive and to a certain degree redundant. But for massive refeeds i may stack something like:

    Meal 1: 1 AP, 1 Glycobol
    Meal 2: 2 Glycobol
    Meall 3: 1Pslin 1 glycobol
    Meal 4: 2 glycobol
    Mind you these meals may habe up to 200grams of carbs each so i will add an extra pill of one or the other is im looking to down an entire pizza.


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    Yeah based on ur answers i think you will be fine with running a bottle of Gbol for now. I would really recommend Gbol to keep ur body ad anabolic as possible during PCT. Since your on a cut and since this is the first time using partitioners. Stick to Gbol for now. Note and document ur progress while ur on it and then u can see if you wanna continue using it or switch. The important thing here is to document progress on whatever partitioner you use because this allows you to design a line of stacks that work well for ur individual chemistry.

    I personally LOVED gbol during my last cut. I am now enjoying it during a recomp. Its a very potent and effective supplement. Something i will repeat very often.
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    Is Glycobol an effective supplement when trying to bulk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Is Glycobol an effective supplement when trying to bulk?
    absolutley

    prevents adipocyte differntiation from pre adipocytes to mature adipocytes as well as decreasing fat cell size. so if you eat your bulking calories less will be stored as fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    absolutley

    prevents adipocyte differntiation from pre adipocytes to mature adipocytes as well as decreasing fat cell size. so if you eat your bulking calories less will be stored as fat.
    X2 good explanation
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    Would I have been negged for simply replying, "Yes." ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Would I have been negged for simply replying, "Yes." ?

    hmmm lol

    a simple answer like yes would have worked as well hahah
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