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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    I want to say that some of the previous reps were using Glycobol with P-Slin. I'll be honest with you though. I've never really looked into P-Slin and I'm not sure how it works. Maybe somebody else can chime in about the efficacy of combining these two.
    Sure why not!

    Well first off before anything just to gain a better scope of your goals i think I would like to ask the following questions DarkHalf:

    You seem very keen on stacking partitioners...why?
    1) Have you used these paritioners in the past with little result?
    2) Are you trying to gain as much mass as possible b/c ur a so called "hard gainer"?
    3) Do you feel the more ingredients/more in a stack the better?
    4) What are you looking to accomplish by stacking these partitioners? Losing fat? Gaining muscle? getting strong? Overall health?


    This will give me a better idea on how to approach ur question.

    As far as personal experience goes with partitioners, i have using Anabolic Pump, P-slin, and Glycobol. All are very effective at what they do. I am now currently usuing Glycobol.

    As far as ingredients go: Anabolic Pump and P-slin focus on shuttling carbs and nutrients to the muscle. This is what creates that pump effect while on Anabolic Pump that some users experience. These are highly specialized formula's with the purpose of loading the muscles with carbs.

    Slin-sane looks to be somewhat similar to anabolic pump with the addition of Norvalline. I have never used this product so i dont know how this ingredient adds to the supplement. If you want to know how the two products supposedly differ i suggest going to the USP labs section for the reps there are much more knowledgable then myself and can aid you in making a differentiation.

    As far as Glycobol goes...you are looking at beast that works via several mechanism to produce an array of effects: A) partitioning of nutrients B) Increasing the bodies anabolic environment via increase in protein synthesis
    C) Lowers excess glucose left over after partitioning D) lowers lipid lowers to prevent fat accumulation


    As far as stacking is concerned, i have stacked partitioners ONLY during massive refeeds. I do not stack them on a normal basis nor do i think one would need to. But since everyone is different so if you have not already done so, try each one separately. Make a baseline observation for each. If you find one is particularly effective u can stick with it without stacking and save some cash. If not at which point u can then begin to tinker with doses.

    I would not recommend stacking on a normal daily basis b/c this is expensive and to a certain degree redundant. But for massive refeeds i may stack something like:

    Meal 1: 1 AP, 1 Glycobol
    Meal 2: 2 Glycobol
    Meall 3: 1Pslin 1 glycobol
    Meal 4: 2 glycobol
    Mind you these meals may habe up to 200grams of carbs each so i will add an extra pill of one or the other is im looking to down an entire pizza.


    Does this help you any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Sure why not!

    Well first off before anything just to gain a better scope of your goals i think I would like to ask the following questions DarkHalf:

    You seem very keen on stacking partitioners...why?

    Will be using them in PCT to help keep me looking full and perhaps get leaner while dieting down. The cycle i'm about to run is a cut and will cut the length of the cycle and through pct. I am also an endomorph that gets fat from eating too many carbs.

    1) Have you used these paritioners in the past with little result?

    Never used them before, however I used Gbol last weekend. I eat whatever on the weekends to break from my strict diet during the week. Monday morning I woke up at baseline which usually doesn't happen after a weekend of eating $hit

    2) Are you trying to gain as much mass as possible b/c ur a so called "hard gainer"?

    See above


    3) Do you feel the more ingredients/more in a stack the better?

    Yep. But more so if those ingredients work together in different ways to create a synergy that one product alone could not create by itself.

    4) What are you looking to accomplish by stacking these partitioners? Losing fat? Gaining muscle? getting strong? Overall health?

    Losing fat whilst eating more carbs to keep a full look while dieting. I am a low carb dieter during the week. 25g C from oats, 35g C from PWO supplement, and the rest occur naturally in my diet from veggies and natty PB

    This will give me a better idea on how to approach ur question.

    As far as personal experience goes with partitioners, i have using Anabolic Pump, P-slin, and Glycobol. All are very effective at what they do. I am now currently usuing Glycobol.

    As far as ingredients go: Anabolic Pump and P-slin focus on shuttling carbs and nutrients to the muscle. This is what creates that pump effect while on Anabolic Pump that some users experience. These are highly specialized formula's with the purpose of loading the muscles with carbs.

    Slin-sane looks to be somewhat similar to anabolic pump with the addition of Norvalline. I have never used this product so i dont know how this ingredient adds to the supplement. If you want to know how the two products supposedly differ i suggest going to the USP labs section for the reps there are much more knowledgable then myself and can aid you in making a differentiation.

    As far as Glycobol goes...you are looking at beast that works via several mechanism to produce an array of effects: A) partitioning of nutrients B) Increasing the bodies anabolic environment via increase in protein synthesis
    C) Lowers excess glucose left over after partitioning D) lowers lipid lowers to prevent fat accumulation


    As far as stacking is concerned, i have stacked partitioners ONLY during massive refeeds. I do not stack them on a normal basis nor do i think one would need to. But since everyone is different so if you have not already done so, try each one separately. Make a baseline observation for each. If you find one is particularly effective u can stick with it without stacking and save some cash. If not at which point u can then begin to tinker with doses.

    I would not recommend stacking on a normal daily basis b/c this is expensive and to a certain degree redundant. But for massive refeeds i may stack something like:

    I plan on using them mainly on sat/sun......and maybe mid-week like wed. I did buy some AP so i'll try that solo this weekend just to see how it works. They days I used it i'll spread my AP and Gbol throughout the day, using 4 of each. 1AP, 1Gbol with my heavier carb meals.

    Meal 1: 1 AP, 1 Glycobol
    Meal 2: 2 Glycobol
    Meall 3: 1Pslin 1 glycobol
    Meal 4: 2 glycobol
    Mind you these meals may habe up to 200grams of carbs each so i will add an extra pill of one or the other is im looking to down an entire pizza.


    Does this help you any?
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Sure why not!

    Well first off before anything just to gain a better scope of your goals i think I would like to ask the following questions DarkHalf:

    You seem very keen on stacking partitioners...why?
    1) Have you used these paritioners in the past with little result?
    2) Are you trying to gain as much mass as possible b/c ur a so called "hard gainer"?
    3) Do you feel the more ingredients/more in a stack the better?
    4) What are you looking to accomplish by stacking these partitioners? Losing fat? Gaining muscle? getting strong? Overall health?


    This will give me a better idea on how to approach ur question.

    As far as personal experience goes with partitioners, i have using Anabolic Pump, P-slin, and Glycobol. All are very effective at what they do. I am now currently usuing Glycobol.

    As far as ingredients go: Anabolic Pump and P-slin focus on shuttling carbs and nutrients to the muscle. This is what creates that pump effect while on Anabolic Pump that some users experience. These are highly specialized formula's with the purpose of loading the muscles with carbs.

    Slin-sane looks to be somewhat similar to anabolic pump with the addition of Norvalline. I have never used this product so i dont know how this ingredient adds to the supplement. If you want to know how the two products supposedly differ i suggest going to the USP labs section for the reps there are much more knowledgable then myself and can aid you in making a differentiation.

    As far as Glycobol goes...you are looking at beast that works via several mechanism to produce an array of effects: A) partitioning of nutrients B) Increasing the bodies anabolic environment via increase in protein synthesis
    C) Lowers excess glucose left over after partitioning D) lowers lipid lowers to prevent fat accumulation


    As far as stacking is concerned, i have stacked partitioners ONLY during massive refeeds. I do not stack them on a normal basis nor do i think one would need to. But since everyone is different so if you have not already done so, try each one separately. Make a baseline observation for each. If you find one is particularly effective u can stick with it without stacking and save some cash. If not at which point u can then begin to tinker with doses.

    I would not recommend stacking on a normal daily basis b/c this is expensive and to a certain degree redundant. But for massive refeeds i may stack something like:

    Meal 1: 1 AP, 1 Glycobol
    Meal 2: 2 Glycobol
    Meall 3: 1Pslin 1 glycobol
    Meal 4: 2 glycobol
    Mind you these meals may habe up to 200grams of carbs each so i will add an extra pill of one or the other is im looking to down an entire pizza.


    Does this help you any?
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    Yeah based on ur answers i think you will be fine with running a bottle of Gbol for now. I would really recommend Gbol to keep ur body ad anabolic as possible during PCT. Since your on a cut and since this is the first time using partitioners. Stick to Gbol for now. Note and document ur progress while ur on it and then u can see if you wanna continue using it or switch. The important thing here is to document progress on whatever partitioner you use because this allows you to design a line of stacks that work well for ur individual chemistry.

    I personally LOVED gbol during my last cut. I am now enjoying it during a recomp. Its a very potent and effective supplement. Something i will repeat very often.
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    Is Glycobol an effective supplement when trying to bulk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Is Glycobol an effective supplement when trying to bulk?
    absolutley

    prevents adipocyte differntiation from pre adipocytes to mature adipocytes as well as decreasing fat cell size. so if you eat your bulking calories less will be stored as fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    absolutley

    prevents adipocyte differntiation from pre adipocytes to mature adipocytes as well as decreasing fat cell size. so if you eat your bulking calories less will be stored as fat.
    X2 good explanation
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    Would I have been negged for simply replying, "Yes." ?

    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Would I have been negged for simply replying, "Yes." ?

    hmmm lol

    a simple answer like yes would have worked as well hahah
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    I'll take that question a step further and add that Glycobol can not only be used while bulking, but it will actually add efficacy to an anabolic cycle:

    Quote Originally Posted by JBerto View Post
    Dr.D, if we had to choose a moment to take Glycobol, when would be the ideal moment to take it to maximize its effects: Before a cycle, On cycle, or on PCT?
    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    In early studies with testosterone propionate administration, a researcher named Hershberger found that glycogen content spiked within 24-72hrs, and then dropped at exactly the same time as the androgen-dependent muscle growth began (marked by an inverse rise in protein content of the muscle.) It was later confirmed in experiments with diabetic animals that many androgens could do this, like Methandriol, Winstrol, and even DHEA! Some could not, like Halotestin and methyltest. Anyway, it was realized that androgen related muscle growth was precluded in the absence of insulin, and that androgen growth was always preceded by an increase in stores of muscle glycogen. Hershberger discovered that the effect of testosterone on the muscle is mediated by a primary effect on the energy-producing process, and that protein synthesis was greatly accelerated when additional energy in the form of glycogen becomes available. That's why all the really big guys use insulin, it makes androgen work better.

    I like to take Glycobol strategically, with big meals to prevent fat storage, and immediately after a workout to carb load. So I will take anywhere from 2-6caps/day, and some days I may not take any. To keep it simple and get a feel for how it works, I'd recommend just using it as directed on the label, then you can tailor your applications from there. On cycle it can dramatically boost gains, off cycle it can keep you hard and full to bridge in between. Or you can use it strategically like I do. I can take a full dose after a workout at night, and wake up the next morning and tell already. The hardness and recovery is impressive. The hardness you get in your muscle is very close to that feeling you get when taking a SERM, that's the best comparison I can think of to describe how it feels. I like that feeling.
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    Rookie here .. Is it safe to take 2 pills with brakefest then take noxplode b4 workout take amp protien after workout and 2 pills of this at night with dinner ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Also, tinker with the timing between dose and eating.
    agreed.

    I started at 10 mins pre CHO intake and found my sweet spo is around 20 minutes prior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbrsi View Post
    Rookie here .. Is it safe to take 2 pills with brakefest then take noxplode b4 workout take amp protien after workout and 2 pills of this at night with dinner ?
    This should be fine but you may have to tinker with the dosage or timing of Glycobol to see what works best for you.
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