Cynostane potency?

[AML]

What is cynostane most similar to in terms of potency? Does it aromitize?
How is it on the liver compared to phera epi or sdrol? Any info would be appreciated.

[Liftergym33]

Bump...any Info???

[Trauma1]

Bump...any Info???

I'll have plenty for you in the coming weeks, haha.

[Liftergym33]

I'll have plenty for you in the coming weeks, haha.

Im sure John! haha...

[freezito]

i dont think anyone knows

[Iron Lungz]

No one knows this information. AI will not answer any questions.

[freezito]

ya i think its crazy that people will buy a ph that hasnt been run and the company has put out no info

[Iron Lungz]

I think that one of the companies needs to step up and answer the public. Putting a POWERFUL HORMONE on the market with no information other than saying that you can pre-order it is pretty bad in my eyes. Think about it, most of the AI Reps are always around answering questions regarding what yo use during a cycle, after a cycle, etc, and now they're gone.
F*ck that.

And all these people lining up to get something that no one has data on for human testing.

ya i think its crazy that people will buy a ph that hasnt been run and the company has put out no info

[freezito]

I was thinking the same thing. they are always right there answering questions but all of a sudden they are no where to be found

[Iron Lungz]

With something so powerful, you would think general questions would be answered... I'm at a loss for words, truthfully. But, I know that the more I ramble, the more likely it will be that I am banned for it. All I know is the facts of WHOM is putting this out, and it's not alone.

I was thinking the same thing. they are always right there answering questions but all of a sudden they are no where to be found

[Liftergym33]

Thats what has me thinking, I keep hearing how powerfull this is, so many question are being asked but no answers... maybe theres a reason for it..

Thats why I bumped it last week...

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I think that one of the companies needs to step up and answer the public. Putting a POWERFUL HORMONE on the market with no information other than saying that you can pre-order it is pretty bad in my eyes. Think about it, most of the AI Reps are always around answering questions regarding what yo use during a cycle, after a cycle, etc, and now they're gone.
F*ck that.

And all these people lining up to get something that no one has data on for human testing. Okay, you go ahead and put your health into their hands.

There will be plenty of logs on this and you know that. One log has just started. The logs should answer the questions better.

[Iron Lungz]

Logs by users cannot answer the very important information that may be crucial for everyones overall health. I am sorry that you feel as if I am "flaming" you; I am concerned that a hormonal product with such a Q ratio is being put on the market with absolutely NO information by the company that is putting it out. Is it wrong to want to know this sort of thing?

There will be plenty of logs on this and you know that. One log has just started. The logs should answer the questions better.

[Iron Lungz]

/Unsubbed.

I will not be baited in to an argument.

[LakeMountD]

ya i think its crazy that people will buy a ph that hasnt been run and the company has put out no info

I know I don't post much anymore because I am busy with other things, but one thing I have definitely been advocating to all companies that I talk to occasionally or regularly is that we need to keep the noise down on these compounds. There are two possible outcomes here:

1) We can all be like some companies we all know and continually spit out hype that typically the product does not live up to, put up print ads, and whore out the reps but what good does that do us?
a) The hype is annoying anyways and just leads to high expectations and obnoxious marketing.
b) Who likes when reps whore things out? If anything it creates a massive number of unnecessary posts/threads that pisses everyone off and makes the company look horrible.
c) With compounds like these 99.9% of reps do not understand chemistry enough to explain the effects, nor should it be a requirement for any reps.
d) The FDA has been more pissed off about the advertising as of late than the actual products themselves. FDA (not FCC) controls all drug related (including OTC) advertising. Let us ALL stay off their radar.

2) ALL companies can keep quiet about these sorts of products and not piss off the government and you can either choose to take or choose not to take given your own research of the product. If people are taking something and have had explosive diarrhea then don't take it. If they take it and gain 25 lbs (yes an exaggeration) and their blood values are perfect then choose to take it or not. Frankly not one supplement company on the planet is qualified to conduct clinical trials or rent out a computing cluster to to calculate receptor-ligand interactions so what is the point of posting information about something that most experts don't truly understand?

I truly wish that Epistane would have been marketed differently back in the day, as well as Superdrol and others to prolong their operational lives. But this message goes out to all companies who read it, keep the noise low. The pound comes after the loud barking dogs first.

Rant over...

[isoc]

I know I don't post much anymore because I am busy with other things, but one thing I have definitely been advocating to all companies that I talk to occasionally or regularly is that we need to keep the noise down on these compounds. There are two possible outcomes here:

1) We can all be like some companies we all know and continually spit out hype that typically the product does not live up to, put up print ads, and whore out the reps but what good does that do us?
a) The hype is annoying anyways and just leads to high expectations and obnoxious marketing.
b) Who likes when reps whore things out? If anything it creates a massive number of unnecessary posts/threads that pisses everyone off and makes the company look horrible.
c) With compounds like these 99.9% of reps do not understand chemistry enough to explain the effects, nor should it be a requirement for any reps.
d) The FDA has been more pissed off about the advertising as of late than the actual products themselves. FDA (not FCC) controls all drug related (including OTC) advertising. Let us ALL stay off their radar.

2) ALL companies can keep quiet about these sorts of products and not piss off the government and you can either choose to take or choose not to take given your own research of the product. If people are taking something and have had explosive diarrhea then don't take it. If they take it and gain 25 lbs (yes an exaggeration) and their blood values are perfect then choose to take it or not. Frankly not one supplement company on the planet is qualified to conduct clinical trials or rent out a computing cluster to to calculate receptor-ligand interactions so what is the point of posting information about something that most experts don't truly understand?

I truly wish that Epistane would have been marketed differently back in the day, as well as Superdrol and others to prolong their operational lives. But this message goes out to all companies who read it, keep the noise low. The pound comes after the loud barking dogs first.

Rant over...

very good post

[Motox]

exactly lakemountd things are changing in the industry time to keep it on the down low!

[Iron Lungz]

exactly lakemountd things are changing in the industry time to keep it on the down low!

But there's a difference between marketing and providing general information, especially when it comes to one's health. Are you saying that we need to remain quiet and not ask what a particular product/compound is?

Am I the only one that thinks about their health this way?

[LakeMountD]

But there's a difference between marketing and providing general information, especially when it comes to one's health. Are you saying that we need to remain quiet and not ask what a particular product/compound is?

Am I the only one that thinks about their health this way?

I am not advocating hiding anything by any means. In fact I am a HUGE advocate of providing more information on what is in a product than what is currently viewed as acceptable. However, as far as health is concerned, people can look at the compound and know what it is and have a general idea of whether they want to take it based off that. The rest of their knowledge should come from their own research not the writings of a company who is trying to sell such a product.

As I mentioned before, scientists aren't even really sure why some of "these compounds" cause more liver damage than others. It has more to do than just potency, they do know that, but besides that the only way to tell is to take it and get blood tests done. From what I have heard this is relatively easy on those values but it remains to be seen from other testers I guess.

Bottom line: There is no information that ANY supplement company can give you, minus what is actually in the capsule and the dose, that will help you any more to make a conscious and intelligent decision. Then again I CAN'T STAND brotelligence.

[Iron Lungz]

Do you expect everyone to be able to find such information? I'm not speaking for everyone here, so don't get me wrong, but if the compound is written in scientific form, and is very evasive, do you not think that it's a good idea to help the consumer with the general understanding?

I seem to be getting a lot of hate-mail by a few people thinking that because I am questioning this, I am somehow, "hating," and/or "flaming." I am simply asking questions to better understand the compound. The last time I checked, that's what boards like this are for.

I am not advocating hiding anything by any means. In fact I am a HUGE advocate of providing more information on what is in a product than what is currently viewed as acceptable. However, as far as health is concerned, people can look at the compound and know what it is and have a general idea of whether they want to take it based off that. The rest of their knowledge should come from their own research not the writings of a company who is trying to sell such a product.

As I mentioned before, scientists aren't even really sure why some of "these compounds" cause more liver damage than others. It has more to do than just potency, they do know that, but besides that the only way to tell is to take it and get blood tests done. From what I have heard this is relatively easy on those values but it remains to be seen from other testers I guess.

Bottom line: There is no information that ANY supplement company can give you, minus what is actually in the capsule and the dose, that will help you any more to make a conscious and intelligent decision. Then again I CAN'T STAND brotelligence.