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    I've been reading different logs for quite awhile to see if I should invest money into a product. I tried to find some on this stack before I bought it and heard mixed reviews. Than again I dont know first hand how dedicated these people are and how hard there working, so, I bought it anyway and decided to make an account and create a log of which I would have liked to have seen. I am doing a 100 day program I have bullet proofed over the past few months. My goal is strictly mass, mass, and mass. This log will be about the Ultimate Mass Stack. Ive listed my supporting supplements aswell. Dont fret, I have been using all of these for atleast a couple years prior so the only new things I am taking are the AMS stack. I will try to be as detailed as I can.

    Supplements:
    1-Andro: 3 ml a day, 1ml a dose 6 hours apart
    4ad: "
    Decavol: "
    ---after 50 days--Aromx: "
    Nocturnabol: 1 before bed

    Supporting supplements:
    Animal Pak: 1 a day
    Animal Omega: "
    Animal Flex: "
    Animal M-Stak: 30 min before lifting
    Creatine Mono: 10 grm morning, 5 grm pre workout, 10 grm post workout
    Glutamine: 10 grm post workout
    Waxy Maze: 30 grm post workout
    Beta Alanine: 2 grm pre and 2 grm post workout
    Chromium. 1000 mcg a day
    Universal Real Gains: 3.5 scoops before bed
    Amino 4 hour: 6 during first meal

    Meals:
    1:
    4 whole eggs
    3 slices white bread
    1 baked potatoe with ketchup
    4oz hot sausage
    16oz orange juice

    2:
    1 cup ground oats
    2 tbs mack oil
    2 scoops whey

    3:
    8oz steak (broiled) w/ sweet baby rays BBQ sauce
    1 1/2- 2 cups white rice
    16oz whole milk

    4:
    8oz steak (Broiled) w/ sweet baby rays BBQ sauce
    1 1/2- 2 cups whit rice
    16oz whole milk

    5:
    2 scoops whey

    -workout

    6:
    2 scoops whey
    1 scoop waxy maze

    7:
    3-4 Pancakes w/ syrup
    25oz skim milk

    8:
    3.5 scoops real gains
    16 oz whole milk

    Current stats:
    Height: 5' 10"
    Weight: 234.4
    BF%: 12
    Chest: 49 1/2
    Bicep: 18
    Forearm: 15
    Waist: 34
    Quad:27 1/2
    Calve: 18

    Training:
    I do HIT ( High Intensity Training), for those of you who dont know in HIT you only do 1 working set per exercise. I have been Training for 7 years and switching to HIT was the best thing I have ever done. Recovering and Growing are two different things. If you spend too much time recovering you wont grow. I know too many people who over train. You grow at home in your bed, not in the gym.

    *I always train Heavy
    *Every body part is trained once a week except forearms and claves. they are trained twice with 2-3 days rest in-between

    Monday: 1 working set 1-3 warmup sets for most
    chest:
    Incline babrbell bench: 1 set 6-8 reps ( I do inclinces at a 15 degree angle instead of 45, I hit my chest more and shoulders less)

    Hammer strength Inline: 1 set 6-8 reps
    Flat Flys: 1 set 6-8 reps
    Cable flys: 1 set 6-8 reps

    Forearms:
    Barbell wirst curls: 1 set 6-10 reps
    Barbell reverse curls: 1 set 6-10 reps

    Tuesday:
    Back:
    Reverse grip pulldowns: 1 set 6 reps
    Reverse Grip BB rows: 1 set 6 reps
    Old school T-Bar rows: 1 set 6 reps
    Deadlifts: 1 set 6 reps

    Calves:
    Calve raises: 1 set 10 reps
    Seated calve raises: 1 set 10 reps

    Wednesday:
    rest day

    Thursday:
    Delts:
    DB shoulder press: 1 set 6 reps
    Cable lateral raises: 1 set 6 reps
    bent cable rows: 1 set 6 reps
    Wide grip upright rows: 1 set 6 reps

    Traps:
    Closegrip BB shurgs: 1 set 6-10 reps
    Widegrip BB shrugs: 1 set 6-10 reps
    DB shrugs: 1 set 6-10 reps

    Friday:
    Biceps:
    BB curl: 1 set 6 reps
    Incline DB curl 1 set 6 reps
    Maching 1 arm preacher crul: 1 set 6 reps

    Triceps:
    Cable pushdowns: 1 set 6 reps
    Decline french Press: 1 set 6 reps
    1 arm Db extentions: 1 set 6 reps

    Forearms:
    Barbell wirst curls: 1 set 6-10 reps
    Barbell reverse curls: 1 set 6-10 reps

    Saturdat:
    Legs:
    Squat: 1 set 6 reps
    Leg press: 1 set 6 reps
    1 leg, Leg extention: 1 set 6 reps
    1 leg, leg curl: 1 set 6 reps

    Calves:
    Standing calve raise: 1 set 6 reps
    Seated calve raise: 1 set 6 reps

    Sunday:
    rest

    This has been my Regimene for the past 9 months. in those 9 months ive put on 50 lbs and 8 inches on my chest, 2 on my arms, 2 on my forearms, 6 on my quads and 1 on my calves.

    I record my diet and gains everday in a book and I will post them on here weekly. yesterday was the 1st day and i will post my 1st week in review on sunday.

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    Set up looks solid. Get your mass on and train hard. And welcome to the forum.
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    Thanks man. So far so good.
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    awesome.. glad to see the nocturnabol in there, such a great supplement.. people tend to overlook how important good sleep is.
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    I agree 100%. Sleep is crucial. I feel in love with Nocturnabol even before I bought it.
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    Today Marks 1 week down of my AMS stack. I will report all my lifts tommorw. It is late and classes start for me tommorow. However, I started at 234.4 lbs and within one week i am now 241.6. that averages about a pound a day. This is the first time i have broken 240 and i am very pleased.
    I cant say about any strength increases yet since it was only my first week but other than that i have been extremely tired and noticed more acne on my shoulders and had a pimple on my forearm for the first time...who knows any of this could be from any number of things. i am skeptic about things before i know they work.
    I dont feel any different in any way besides the tired thing but i dont know what to really expect either.
    I havent been waiting a few minutes in between 1-andro, 4ad, and decavol. I was doing them back to back so I am hoping I didnt null the effects. Either way I will post my lifts tommorow so we can watch them change over the next couple months.
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    You'll make solid gains from this stack, I'm sure of it. And there'll be no doubt in your mind after the cycle that these products where the ones that made the difference!

    I did a cycle of the old stuff, the caps, last year and became stronger than ever before, it was great. It took about 3 weeks before it really kicked in for me and after that it just got better and better, so don't worry if you don't get results right away.

    I did the complete Ultimate stack that time. This time I'll only use 1-Andro and 4-AD, we should compare our results after we're done to see if the Decavol does make a significant difference.

    How many calories do you estimate you'll get from food/supplements a day?
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    Yeah that will be interesting to see about the decavol. Im sure ill see some great gains a few weeks down the road. Right now I am getting in between 5000,6000,7000 cals a day depending on what day of the week it is. I am in college so on some days of the week i have classes for 6 hours straight back to back and its hard for me to get a solid meal in between like i would otherwise. With that i substitue with my own shake. 3 scoops whey and a cup of oats i grind up into a powder. I must be bloating or something because i hoped on the scale again first thing this morning (post dump) like i always do and i was 245.6. thats over 11 lbs in 8 days.
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    So heres my week in review and my starting point for my lifts. Some will go up quick because im adjusting to a new gym and new equipment this week.

    Monday:
    Incline bench; 225-10
    Hammer strength incline, 350-7
    Flat fly, 90-5
    Cable fly, 110-7

    Tuesday:
    reverse grip pull down with pause at the bottom, 230-7
    Reverse grip BB row, 385-10
    Old school Tbar, 355-8
    deadlift, 455-2

    wednesday rest

    thursday
    db military press, 90 (or 180lbs)-8
    Side cables: 70-10
    bent cables, 70-10
    Upright rows, 135-8
    close grip shrugs, 315-10
    Wide grip shrugs, 315-10
    DB shrugs, 120 (240)-10

    Friday
    BB curl, 135-8
    Incline Db curl, 45 (90)-8
    Preacher curl machine(1 arm), 70-8
    straight bar pushdowns 190-10
    French press(skullcrushers) 125-8
    1 arm DB extentions, 45-10

    Sat
    Squat, 305-8 way past parallel
    Leg press, 810 as deep as possible
    Single leg extentions, 190-10
    Single leg curls 150-10

    sunday rest.

    if you see i did 10 reps on something then this week i will be increasing the weight. some are a little off i found due to the new/awkward equipment. i have chest again tonight so it will be interesting to see what i put up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    Yeah that will be interesting to see about the decavol. Im sure ill see some great gains a few weeks down the road. Right now I am getting in between 5000,6000,7000 cals a day depending on what day of the week it is. I am in college so on some days of the week i have classes for 6 hours straight back to back and its hard for me to get a solid meal in between like i would otherwise. With that i substitue with my own shake. 3 scoops whey and a cup of oats i grind up into a powder. I must be bloating or something because i hoped on the scale again first thing this morning (post dump) like i always do and i was 245.6. thats over 11 lbs in 8 days.
    Wow, that's a lot. I weigh around 220 and eat about 4000 cals a day - and I gain weight on that. You're probably younger than me though as you're in college, I'm over 30 and I've noticed it's a lot easier to gain weight now, the wrong kind of weight! =)

    A shake is a good tool when you don't have access to solid food. And I wouldn't worry too much about those 6 hours. Recent studies suggests that meal frequency isn't as important as previously believed in the bodybuilding community. People actually get just as good results eating just 2-3 times a day as they do eating 6-8 times a day! If they eat the same amount of calories of course. I've tried this, during a cutting diet, and the results were the best I've ever had when cutting, also it was very pleasant to not need to plan meals and think about food that much.
    Think what you will about that, I know it sounds absurd when we've been force fed the idea that eating every other hour is the best way to build muscle. But it might be nice to have that idea in the back of your mind on those days when you feel you can't follow your diet as you would like to.
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    I agree with that for sure. For me though, i couldnt eat that much at one meal. I cant eat much at one time before i feel like im going to puke so i have to eat atleast 8 times a day. I know its alot of calories but im 21 and naturally rail skinny and have to eat like a horse just to maintain. Thanks for sharing that with me though, ill try to eat more my meal Pre-class. it just sucks my classes go from 2-8 because thats when i normally eat the most.
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    Damn nice weight gain thus far. The strength will follow.
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    Thanks man. I am exremely worried though because I have become extremely tired all day everyday and have NO appetite anymore. I dont know what is the cause of this but if i cant eat i cant grow. Is there anything out there to boost my appitite or help me not feel full?
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    also heres my lifts for chest this week. Notice the insane increase:

    Incline bench:last week 225 for 10, this week 245 for 11

    Hammer strength: last week: 360 for 6, this week 410 for 10

    Flys: last week 90s for 5, this week 90s for 8

    Cable fly: 110 for 7, this week 110 for 15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    Thanks man. I am exremely worried though because I have become extremely tired all day everyday and have NO appetite anymore. I dont know what is the cause of this but if i cant eat i cant grow. Is there anything out there to boost my appitite or help me not feel full?
    once the 4ad kicks in, that should help with the lethargy, but for appetite, you can put a little bit of apple cidar vinegar in water and drink that, that always helps me out when i need to eat more.
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    Aswome, thanks. How long does it take for 4ad to kick in? and does it matter if im on an empty stomach when i take my doses? im never on an empty stomach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    Aswome, thanks. How long does it take for 4ad to kick in? and does it matter if im on an empty stomach when i take my doses? im never on an empty stomach
    should be within the first week, week and a half. I'm never on an empty stomach either, so no worries there.
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    thanks man, that should be soon its been 9 days on so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    thanks man, that should be soon its been 9 days on so far.
    if you are still noticing lethargy, you could up the 4AD to 3ml per day (not sure if you are doing 2ml a day or what now), but the 4AD will help with the lethargy sometimes associated with 1andro
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    Im doing 3ml a day of each. i feel like could sleep all day if i had the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    Im doing 3ml a day of each. i feel like could sleep all day if i had the time
    well then if you dont notice a change soon, go 4ml on the 4ad or you could drop the 1andro to 2ml and keep the 4ad at 3ml per day.
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    K i might have to do that. Whats this apple cider vinegar thing your talking about? whats the ratio to water? smells bad, i have some
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    K i might have to do that. Whats this apple cider vinegar thing your talking about? whats the ratio to water? smells bad, i have some
    I usually just put a tbsp or two in a glass of water and chug it after i eat if i'm having problems pounding down the food.
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    cool thanks man, ill give it a try
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoopierced1 View Post
    once the 4ad kicks in, that should help with the lethargy, but for appetite, you can put a little bit of apple cidar vinegar in water and drink that, that always helps me out when i need to eat more.
    Cool tip. Never tried that...I have tried a solo shot of ACV but cant stand the taste.
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    Late but subb'd. Now what's this one-working-set thing? I'm sure you do warmups, right? And even though it's just one working set, do you extend the set with half-reps, quarter reps, forced reps? I'm interested in this. I'm currently on a stack of Tren LV and 4-AD. I intend to make this Ultimate Stack my next cycle.
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    thanks for showing some interest man.
    I only do on working set. so for example, on chest day i have four lifts. Incline, hammer strength, decline flys, and cable flys. this is for next week,For my first exercise ill do 135 8 times for a warm up, then ill do 185 4-6 times for a warmup, then ill do 225 for 4 for a warm up, then i will do my one working set of 275. i dont count the warmup sets becasue there not really sets. im not going anywhere near failure or fatique. Im just warming up my chest and getting used to the heavier weight. for my next exercise ill only do 2 warm up sets, and by flys i dont need one because im already warmed up and just go straight into my one set. during my one set however i go all out. i always have a spot on everylift so even when i know i cant get another rep i try anyways. on certain lifts at the end of my set when i cant get anymore my spot will help me to get some negatives but that depends on the lift. but i want to stress that the warm ups arent by anymeans a real set, there too light and i dont do enough reps with them to do anything. My workouts only last about 30-40 min. my whole basis behind my training is that i believe training more than this will put your body in a catabolic state because the body is being broken down so much it sends your body in a shock trying to recover from the damage that you just did to it so instead of growing from exercise. Recovery and growth are two very very different things and i dont think people understand that. to get your body primed fo OPTIMAL growth you must hit it hard enough to put it in an anabolic state but not too much to where youve passed that and put your body in a catobolic state. I used to train 4 exercises with 3 sets each and i would be dead all week, my joints would hurt and i would be exhausted. i got gains but now where near what i am getting now. When i switched to HIT training my incline max went up 39 lbs in one a week. thats unheard of to me and i stand behind this way of training like its my job.
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    I did some research on the apple cider vinegar for appetite and it is actually an appetite suppresant. its used alot to help decrease appetite for weight loss. theres all these diets based of this. Im gonna pass on the ACV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    I did some research on the apple cider vinegar for appetite and it is actually an appetite suppresant. its used alot to help decrease appetite for weight loss. theres all these diets based of this. Im gonna pass on the ACV
    it always has helped me in increasing appetite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    thanks for showing some interest man.
    I only do on working set. so for example, on chest day i have four lifts. Incline, hammer strength, decline flys, and cable flys. this is for next week,For my first exercise ill do 135 8 times for a warm up, then ill do 185 4-6 times for a warmup, then ill do 225 for 4 for a warm up, then i will do my one working set of 275. i dont count the warmup sets becasue there not really sets. im not going anywhere near failure or fatique. Im just warming up my chest and getting used to the heavier weight. for my next exercise ill only do 2 warm up sets, and by flys i dont need one because im already warmed up and just go straight into my one set. during my one set however i go all out. i always have a spot on everylift so even when i know i cant get another rep i try anyways. on certain lifts at the end of my set when i cant get anymore my spot will help me to get some negatives but that depends on the lift. but i want to stress that the warm ups arent by anymeans a real set, there too light and i dont do enough reps with them to do anything. My workouts only last about 30-40 min. my whole basis behind my training is that i believe training more than this will put your body in a catabolic state because the body is being broken down so much it sends your body in a shock trying to recover from the damage that you just did to it so instead of growing from exercise. Recovery and growth are two very very different things and i dont think people understand that. to get your body primed for OPTIMAL growth you must hit it hard enough to put it in an anabolic state but not too much to where youve passed that and put your body in a catobolic state. I used to train 4 exercises with 3 sets each and i would be dead all week, my joints would hurt and i would be exhausted. i got gains but now where near what i am getting now. When i switched to HIT training my incline max went up 39 lbs in one a week. thats unheard of to me and i stand behind this way of training like its my job.
    Verrrry interesting. I will incorporate this, I'm just not sure if I'll start next week or wait until my six-week cycle is over (I'm currently in week 2). It does sound extremely promising.

    Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Verrrry interesting. I will incorporate this, I'm just not sure if I'll start next week or wait until my six-week cycle is over (I'm currently in week 2). It does sound extremely promising.

    Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.

    Yeah man anytime. when you try it make sure that one set is just an all out powerhouse of a set and save nothing. mentally it helps too because your thinking "i only have to do this once"
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    Heres my results for my second day of back on this stack.

    last week: yesterday:
    reverse grip pulldowns: 230-6 250-6
    reverse grip rows: 365-10 385-8
    tbar rows: 340-6 340-5 (my strap broke and grip was gone)
    deadlift: 455-2 405-6

    I was extremely tired yesterday and felt lagging. i made some gains in places and stayed the same in others its seems. todays rest day and tommorows delts. Im drinking alot of liquid calories on top of my food this week to help expand my stomach so i can eat more. I wish i would have prep'd my stomach two weeks before this stack. i feel like i missed out on my true potential the past 10 days despite my gains.
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    I started taking another supplement to help with my lethargy today. It worked wonders and i was able to eat alot more too.
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    today was shoulders. heres my lifts and weight i did

    DB shoulder press: 95lbs DB for 10
    Cable laterals; 70-10 (easy, not quite up to 90 yet)
    Bent cables: 90-10
    Upwright rows: 205-10

    notice dramatic increase from last week

    1st: 90 lbs DB for 8
    2nd: 70-10
    3rd: 70-10
    4th: 135-10

    These gains dont seem normal to me but hey, i am not complaining. I just hope they dont stop coming. ill let you know how arms goes tommorow.
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    i did arms today and had some great gains. I'm hopping to see similar gains in legs on sunday. I normally do legs on saturday but i am going to annapolis tommorow with my girlfriend so ill have to do them sunday and take tommorow as a rest day here are my lifts for arms today followed by last weeks so you can see the difference.

    Biceps:
    BB curl: 165-5
    DB incline curl: 50s-8
    Single arm preacher curl machine: 77.5-10

    triceps:
    straight bar pushdowns: 130-10
    Decline French press: 135-10
    Single arm Db extentions: 60-10

    Forearms:
    wrist cruls: 125-6
    Behing wrist curls: 125-10
    Reverse wrist curls 55-10


    Heres last weeks

    Biceps:
    BB curl: 135-8
    DB incline curl: 45s-8
    Single arm preacher curl machine: 70-8

    triceps:
    straight bar pushdowns: 110-10
    Decline French press: 125-10
    Single arm Db extentions: 45-10

    Forearms:
    wrist cruls: 75-10
    Behing wrist curls: 75-10
    Reverse wrist curls 45-10

    heres how much i went up on each lift

    Biceps:
    BB curl: +30 lbs -3 reps
    DB incline curl: +5 lbs in each arm same reps
    Single arm preacher curl machine: + 7.5 lbs + 2 reps

    triceps:
    straight bar pushdowns: +10 lbs same reps
    Decline French press: plus 10 lbs same reps
    Single arm Db extentions: +15 lbs same reps

    Forearms:
    wrist cruls: + 50 lbs -4 reps
    Behing wrist curls: + 50 lbs same reps
    Reverse wrist curls +10 lbs same reps
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    subbed, do you have any previous PH/AS experience that you could compare you results when your finished?

    I wasnt interested in these products before, but for the prices i can find them now, and ive read a few other log, they might make a good stack in combination with some other ideas i have

    goodluck
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    This is my first PH cycle. however ive tried a whole bunch of other test boosters like animal test and testron etc.. i know there not the same, and the results arent either. I think you should give these a shot. I know i will be doing this stack again. i hear you about the price though...that part was not fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    I started taking another supplement to help with my lethargy today. It worked wonders and i was able to eat alot more too.
    What did you add out of curiosity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky5145 View Post
    This is my first PH cycle. however ive tried a whole bunch of other test boosters like animal test and testron etc.. i know there not the same, and the results arent either. I think you should give these a shot. I know i will be doing this stack again. i hear you about the price though...that part was not fun.
    I saw a huge deal on the Mass Stack XL but i already have too many PH/DS's that i dont have the time, or want to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychabinol View Post
    subbed, do you have any previous PH/AS experience that you could compare you results when your finished?

    I wasnt interested in these products before, but for the prices i can find them now, and ive read a few other log, they might make a good stack in combination with some other ideas i have

    goodluck
    So what did you have in mind? I have a "stash" chock full of PH/DS, and I'm starting Week 3 of a 4-AD/Tren LV stack. I'm curious to know what "ideas" you had, combo-wise.
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