AMS Ultimate Mass Stack/Nocturnabol Log
- 01-23-2010, 07:50 PM
i have both but i use the one with 3ml because i like that one better, i find that one easier to measure. I go until the black rubber is right in-line with the 1 ml mark. decavol isnt any thicker than 1andro and it still had as much as the 4ad if not a little more. i dont find it hard at all to have exact measurements each time. dont get me wrong im having great gains but if it says 60 ml there better damn well be 60 ml in there.
- 01-23-2010, 07:56 PM
heres my results for arms this week
DB curl: 50-9
Single arm preacher: 90-12
Dec French press: 145-10
single arm Db overhead ext.: 65-8
heres the amount + from last week
BB curl: +5 lbs +3 reps
DB incline curl: +1 rep
Single arm preacher: +13lbs + 2reps
Pushdowns: +20 lbs
French: + 10 lbs
Db ext: +5 lbs in each arm
01-23-2010, 09:45 PM
Nice numbers! I haven't had any tingle from 4AD or Deca, but AromX kinda burns my tongue. I did run out of Deca before 4AD though.
01-24-2010, 12:39 AM
01-24-2010, 07:37 PM
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01-25-2010, 12:49 AM
01-28-2010, 06:06 PM
I'm about to start this same stack after the superbowl, already am dosing the cycle support, may I ask though what your calorie intake range is? I'm a bit lighter but still going to be aiming in the 3500-4000 cal range @ 250-300g protein
will you be running anything other than Arom-X for your PCT?
01-28-2010, 07:22 PM
01-28-2010, 09:22 PM
most people dont advocate too much protien but im siding with the kai greene philosphyh of diet, get in as much as i can. i usually got in between 400-500 grams before i started this.
ill only be running arom-x for Pct.
p.s. if i were you id start eating a little more now and start to expand your stomach so when you start your cycle youll stay hungry. also invest in some coffee or a good alarm clock.
good luck man and let me know how yours goes and what you end up doing to keep awake. i think the stresses of being a senior in college and trying to get all my stuff done isnt helping me either
01-28-2010, 09:22 PM
01-28-2010, 11:14 PM
I'm actually glad to hear you're pretty tired on this and getting some sleep. I can't sleep in nor get to sleep in a timely manner. I'm lucky if I can pull off 7 uninterrupted hours. Too much EC...gonna be going off everything except the staples for the cycle. Gonna pass on the caffeine and yohimbe. We'll save stims for cutting season.
If I did stick in the low hypercaloric diet range, could I actually expect to see a recomp rather than a lean bulk? I'm also limiting cardio to 2 days/wk.
thanks for you feedback! I too am a senior, I feel ya man, 3 more months...then I no more college gym...I'm so sad. I like being one of the biggest dudes in there at 200lbs lol.
01-28-2010, 11:41 PM
01-28-2010, 11:44 PM
see the thing with the sleep is, i im tired all the time but cant get enough sleep. i sleep in, but i have early classes, so you see where im going, its becoming a problem. i almost missed class today....an important one.
i noticed you said your cutting cals were 2500-3000. i personally eat almost more cals when i cut then when i bulk. im burning so much calories a day i need more in me to keep my hard earned mass on. i used to eat 2500-3000 but lost so much muscle mass. the thing with us younger guys is that we dont have much muscle maturity so when you loose weight, we loose our muscle fast too so be careful man, id hate to see you loose a little of what you worked for. it happend to me on a bigger scale and i was devestated. but i worked my way back and im ready to stay big.
also, i dont touch stims much either during a bulk, but youll see what i mean when you start the stack. i save the red pill off alot of my animal products and pop them at different times of the day just to keep me going so i can get my homework done.
01-28-2010, 11:44 PM
02-07-2010, 12:29 AM
quick question about your dosing protocol
I see you're spacing dosing 6hrs apart, is this first thing in the morning and then 6hrs at some later time in the day, or do you dose once before workouts and the other 6hrs before/after? Do you use a similar timing scheme for dosing on off days?
As far as diet, if my estimate my maintenance around 3500 cals/day, should I slowly build up to surplus...I plan on leveling out around 5000 cals/day or more, so long as I'm not feeling too "pudgy". Should I taper up to that total or just jump right into it? I'm leaning towards adding 500/day for a few days at a time and hitting 5000 after a week or so into the cycle
02-08-2010, 05:58 PM
as far as your cals go you should def gradually eat more, dont do it all at once. you have to give time to let your stomach get bigger and let your body get uset to those cals.
02-10-2010, 10:19 AM
02-11-2010, 08:42 AM
02-11-2010, 03:22 PM
02-12-2010, 04:02 PM
02-12-2010, 04:43 PM
what's written and published about all this stuff isn't always true. genetics among other things make everything different for everyone. for example, when i cut up, i eat almost twice the amount of carbs i do when i am bulking and i still manage to get my bodyfat anywhere between 4-6% before i have to drop them it at all.
03-07-2010, 12:44 AM
well i just started my pct. had a pretty good run. i wasnt completely sold on the stuff but it did its job.
03-07-2010, 08:15 PM
I gained about 10 pounds from the run. Lost it all when I got sick a few days ago, but I finally got it all back. Hope your weight and strength continue to go up.
03-07-2010, 09:48 PM
03-10-2010, 07:34 PM
03-10-2010, 09:36 PM
nah i should have though. more strength gains than anything really. this by no means added a significant amount of mass
03-10-2010, 11:54 PM
03-11-2010, 12:12 AM
03-11-2010, 12:13 AM
03-11-2010, 12:17 AM
thanks, yeah i wish i would have but at the same time like i said it was more strength gains than anything. i took measurements everyday and they went up some but nothing out of the order in terms of my normal growth on a bulk. i was expecting more because i had about the same gains from a regualr test sup i took that required no PCT and wasnt a ph. it was a solid sup but im gonna look around to see if i can get something a little stronger
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