4-AD UTT™

[quigs]

New AMS 4-AD UTT™

New delivery - better results!

As we continue to develop and launch the best workout supplements possible, we are now offering 4-AD in our new Liquid UTT™ formula found in Liquidrone UTT™. The UTT™ (under the tongue) delivery system offers a more efficient dose of the active compound and elevates blood plasma levels faster than the previous products.

Liquid Muscle is Here!

4-AD UTT™: Encounter the same androgenic mass, strength, energy and libido gains as you did with 4-AD plus these benefits:

Skip the stomach, go straight to the bloodstream!

• Ultra efficient UTT™ delivery system
• Completely avoid liver first pass
• Reach blood plasma levels sooner
• Utilize alternate bio-pathway for maximum multi-supplement stacking
• Liquid prohormones have an advantage over their encapsulated cousins due to their unique under-the-tongue (UTT™) delivery system - brought to you by Advanced Muscle Science.

4-AD UTT™ (4-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one suspension), AMS' first liquid testosterone precursor, contains 40 mg per 1 ml of 4-AD dissolved into a unique oral delivery called a nanocarrier. The specific nanocarrier used for 4-AD is known as a Liposome. Liposomes are such a unique delivery system because they encapsulate the active molecular compound in a way that prolongs residence in the bloodstream, enhances intracellular penetration and preserves the active molecule until it reaches its desired location in the body.

Just like similar molecules, 4-AD has a half life. When taken in pill form, you rely on the body to break the pill down then the molecule, resulting in wasted time and causing excess stress on the liver and other organs (4-AD UTT™ avoids the first pass through the liver entirely). This often results in only 15% of the molecule being delivered in the first hour. So for you to achieve sufficient blood levels of the molecule in pill form you must take 200 mg (30 mg the first hour) 2 times a day. However, 4-AD UTT™ is fully dissolved in the Liposomal liquid solution, the full dose of 40 mg can be delivered in 1 hour (as compared to 30 mg with pills), reaching blood plasma levels sooner.

4-AD UTT™ converts at a high rate to testosterone. The liquid oral delivery system will give you better size and strength increases than the old testosterone precursors.

• Avoid first pass through the liver - maximizing the anabolic efficiency
• Reach desired anabolic blood plasma levels faster with five times the efficiency
• Anabolic Liposomal liquid solution spikes blood plasma levels faster and five times as efficient as standard oral capsules and tablets.
• 4-AD UTT™ is the perfect anabolic to stack with 1-Androsterone UTT™, Decavol, and Arom-X UTT™ or on its own for lean bulk results.

Advanced Muscle Science

[warbird01]

how many doses come in one bottle and how much will it be on nutra?

[quigs]

how many doses come in one bottle and how much will it be on nutra?

Depends on how high you want to dose it. There are 60mL per bottle and 40mg/mL. I believe the suggested dosage will be around 2mL per day...but I'm sure that many will run it at higher dosages.

I don't know what the price will be on nutraplanet, as it is really up to them not AMS. The SRP is $63.95, but is on sale at the AMS site now for $50.95. I would guess that retailers will have it listed somewhere around the price of liquidrone. But that's just a guess.

[Liftingstud]

Is there an low dose AI like the pills?? Think they did.

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Is there an low dose AI like the pills?? Think they did.

Are u talking about the liquid Arom-x?

[mixedup]

what is the flavoring?

[Random181]

So how much test would 1 mill actually convert to in the body? if you went with 2ml ED how much test injections would this be equivalent to?

[tattoopierced1]

Not sure what the UTT system delivers, but the pills yielded about 15-20% conversion rate, and this is supposed to be significantly higher % yield. Will have to see if one of us can get a more specific answer to your question.

[Random181]

Thanks mate

[buquicchioc09]

Any clue on how many mg/ml there are?

[tattoopierced1]

Any clue on how many mg/ml there are?

4AD UTT has 40mg of 4-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one per ml

[buquicchioc09]

how much of that is absorb compared to the pills

[quigs]

So how much test would 1 mill actually convert to in the body? if you went with 2ml ED how much test injections would this be equivalent to?

Honestly, you're not going to get a perfect answer to this question. You see, there's a lot more that goes into the equation than just xx amount of prohormone = xx amount of target hormone systemically.

See, a big problem with this is the fact that the reactions are not one way. For example, once 1-andro comes in contact with 17-beta-HSD you have conversion to 1-dione...then it converts further to 1-testosterone. The trick is that it may convert to 1-test, but then back to 1-dione, and so forth. The chemical reaction has to reach an equilibrium (with the above mentioned compounds and other minor metabolites). This really confounds the issue.

You see, on paper if you take the 10-15% oral bioavailablity (which is low end) of even the old 4-diol and took it orally at 1,000mg daily (which was a common dose) then according to the numbers this should equal around 700mg-1,050mg of testosterone weekly (not even accounting for ester weight).

If you've taken the old 4-diol, you know that taking 1g daily was nowhere near the physiological effects of taking 700-1000mg of test per week.

So where does this leave us? Well, we all know that the old 4-diol (old 4AD) was still a very effective prohormone to testosterone. It was particularly useful as a base of a stack...commonly with 1-testosterone (or 1AD). While the results weren't as drastic as a gram of test per week, it still produced a very nice anabolic effect, maintained libido, improved mood, etc. When stacked with 1-testosterone, it was one of the most potent pre-ban combinations....a combination that many still long for today.

So anyways, to answer your question...I can't tell you exactly how many mg of 4AD UTT will be equal to xx amount of testosterone injection. I can tell you that the suggested dosage is very effective, and a more fair comparison would be to compare to the old 4-diol.

[quigs]

how much of that is absorb compared to the pills

Bioavailablity of sublingual liposomal hormones will be much higher than that of oral (capsule products) and higher than transdermal application...due to the rich sublingual vascular/lymph supply and relatively thin epithelium.

The exact number will rely on the user. The length of time held under the tongue, etc.

[quigs]

Here is a post from another board. This may help to answer some questions over here. This one was in regards to whether sublingual delivery would be an effective option for these hormones, the level of converting enzyme (17b-HSD) at specific tissues, etc.

Not so much the masticatory mucosa, but more the lining mucosa (ventral tongue and floor of mouth). At what levels, I do not have a specific number, but I do know that it is a sufficient level to have enough conversion to be biologically active. You can test this yourself by putting the 1-androsterone (or 1-dione/diol) under the tongue. At first you will not feel anything, but after 30 seconds to a minute you will feel a burning sensation. This is due to the fact that 1-testosterone is irritating to the mucosa...while 1-andro, 1-dione/diol are not.

Additionally, not all conversion needs to happen sublingually. 17-HSD is abundant in many tissues, including skeletal muscle. This is where we want most conversion to 1-test to take place.

So what I'm saying is that its not really critical whether a significant amount is actually converted sublingually...the issue is whether it is absorbed efficiently to achieve a biological effect. The fact that sublingual administration (like transdermal) will avoid the hepatic first pass means that much less of the absorbed compound will be metabolically deactivated by the liver...meaning more is available where we want it.

This ties into your last question. The numbers that you are using 300-500mg orally is a good figure. That said, a significant portion of this never actually makes it to the target tissues...so the actual biological dosage is much lower. This is mainly due to the first pass hepatic metabolism (which both transdermal and sublingual administration aim to bypass). You see, oral absorption of most of these steroidal hormones is pretty good...where the problem stems is the fact that even though you're getting it through the GI its being degraded in the liver before reaching the target tissue.

I'm sure that you'll agree that a good transdermal dose of 1-test is much lower than an oral dose. This is not because its "absorbed" better (its actually absorbed better in the GI). Its actually because you're avoiding first pass and allowing a larger total percentage of the compound to reach the target tissue where it can be biologically active. The amount absorbed sublingually should be significantly higher than the amount absorbed transdermally due to the relatively thin layer of epithelium and rich sublingual blood vessel and lymphatic supply.

The sublingual approach is kinda cool in that it couples a high absorption rate with the ability to avoid hepatic first pass degradation.

[quigs]

what is the flavoring?

1-androsterone is mint flavored. All the rest are cinnamon.

[JOHNJESSICA20]

1-androsterone is mint flavored. All the rest are cinnamon.

Great posts man!

[TheBCD]

So basically doesn't 40MG of UTT equal 200MG per pill? So we are getting the same amount observed per serving. So wouldn't 1 pottle of pills be just as effective as 1 bottle of UTT?

[JOHNJESSICA20]

So basically doesn't 40MG of UTT equal 200MG per pill? So we are getting the same amount observed per serving. So wouldn't 1 pottle of pills be just as effective as 1 bottle of UTT?

The entire reasoning behind the subli method is to get the product to your blood stream faster to allow for more efficient use of said chemical. The UTT (under the tongue) delivery system offers a more efficient dose of the active compound and elevates blood plasma levels faster than the previous products. Here are a few added benefits of this delivery system:

*100% bioavailability makes them far superior to the 15% conversion of
encapsulated prohormones based on the 1,4 andro studies.

*Ultra efficient UTT delivery system

*Completely avoid liver first pass

*Reach blood plasma levels sooner

*Utilize alternate bio-pathway for maximum multi-supplement stacking

[dg806]

I need to try this!