1-ad/4-ad cycle/pct doasages

[Caboose]

I am fairly new to the forum, and you'll be glad to here I have read most of the threads, I am not asking for a source and I haven't started my cycle.

I have sourced everything and have everything in place ready to go, if I am going to do this I am going to do it right. I just have one last question.

I just want to get some opinions on these doasages:

Wk1: 2caps 1-ad
Wk2-4: 2caps 1-ad and 2caps 4-ad
Wk5: 2 caps 4-ad

I am 23, about 81KG now and I'm 6ft tall, are these amounts to low or is it a good idea to start low as this is my first cycle?

Pct: 3caps Arom-x each day

I have 4 weeks worth clomid and nolvadex on hand, should I take these anyway, something like this:

Nolva: 40/20/20/10
Clomid: 50/50/50/50

or just see how I react and then take them accordingly?

Is both over kill for this stack? I thought I might as well just get both and then if they aren't needed save them for later.

Sorry for the rookie questions, I've had a look around for on this and other sites and got a few answers but want to get your opinions on this.

Thanks for your help guys

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Heres a chart for stacking these. Remember this is not the say all end all way to dose this stack if you dont feel comfortable with amount of dose just adjust it a bit. I do feel the dose you posted is a lil low. What is your /age/weight/goals and background with these types of supplements. After getting all you info it will allow me to taylor this stack specifically for you and your needs.

[Caboose]

I am 23, about 81KG now and I'm 6ft tall, are these amounts to low or is it a good idea to start low as this is my first cycle?

Cheers JOHNJESSICA20,

Sorry for the slow reply, had a busy weekend.

I'm not after quick gains, I am happy with slow graduale gains. I think I'l be able to keep these better then too. Are the doses I have put to small for even this? Looking at it now I think I was meant to say 3 of each per day. At the moment I am aiming to be a lean 85Kg, then go up to about 90Kg later in the year/early next year.

Is 5 of each not a bit high for my first ph cycle? Or should I just run a shorter cycle?

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Cheers JOHNJESSICA20,

Sorry for the slow reply, had a busy weekend.

I'm not after quick gains, I am happy with slow graduale gains. I think I'l be able to keep these better then too. Are the doses I have put to small for even this? Looking at it now I think I was meant to say 3 of each per day. At the moment I am aiming to be a lean 85Kg, then go up to about 90Kg later in the year/early next year.

Is 5 of each not a bit high for my first ph cycle? Or should I just run a shorter cycle?

No u can run the 3 aday thats great for first cycle. It makes it alot easyer for me to direct you when i got all your info like u provided. Also sence this is your first cycle i'd keep it around the 4-5 week range just to feel things out better.

[Caboose]

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated!

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated!

Not a problem, my self/tat/royd are always here to help.

[wasilli]

Hi, hope Caboose will forgive me because I use his thread...

I´m also PH-Rookie and would ask if it could be a good idea to pulse a 1-AD/4-AD Stack?

THX

[tattoopierced1]

Hi, hope Caboose will forgive me because I use his thread...

I´m also PH-Rookie and would ask if it could be a good idea to pulse a 1-AD/4-AD Stack?

THX

no need to pulse 1andro/4ad. Just run them straight through.

[wasilli]

Ok, thanks for the quick reply.
Have think about it to avoid most sides because I read the pulsing thread from Dr.D
Could you explain shortly why this is no good idea for this stack but indeed for something like epi?

Thanks a lot!

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Ok, thanks for the quick reply.
Have think about it to avoid most sides because I read the pulsing thread from Dr.D
Could you explain shortly why this is no good idea for this stack but indeed for something like epi?

Thanks a lot!

Personally I think its due to it take these products a lil longer to start working there magic in your body consistancy with these are key. One reason people pulse epi is releif of sides .

[jp17815]

I am fairly new to the forum, and you'll be glad to here I have read most of the threads, I am not asking for a source and I haven't started my cycle.

I have sourced everything and have everything in place ready to go, if I am going to do this I am going to do it right. I just have one last question.

I just want to get some opinions on these doasages:

Wk1: 2caps 1-ad
Wk2-4: 2caps 1-ad and 2caps 4-ad
Wk5: 2 caps 4-ad

I am 23, about 81KG now and I'm 6ft tall, are these amounts to low or is it a good idea to start low as this is my first cycle?

Pct: 3caps Arom-x each day

I have 4 weeks worth clomid and nolvadex on hand, should I take these anyway, something like this:

Nolva: 40/20/20/10
Clomid: 50/50/50/50

or just see how I react and then take them accordingly?

Is both over kill for this stack? I thought I might as well just get both and then if they aren't needed save them for later.

Sorry for the rookie questions, I've had a look around for on this and other sites and got a few answers but want to get your opinions on this.

Thanks for your help guys

Hi.
I'm running the ultimate mass stack. 1st PH myself.
I'm going into week 3 and have been following the chart on the AMS website.

So far so good. Good gains, good mood. Minimum sides. I do have a log but not enough posts to show the link. just look under AMS logs.

I look forward to the next 3 weeks. I seem to feel beter everyday. The only hard part is the off days. I still want to lift and train hard, but know I need the time off.

JP.

[wasilli]

Ok, I understand...

Thanks a lot

[wasilli]

Hi,
I finished my 3 Week of 1AD/4AD
I´ve taken 2 Capsules/d 1AD in the first week and 2/2 1AD/4AD per day in the second and third. I´m about 6,5lbs up.
I´ve chosen the low doses and 4AD because I wanted to avoid sides and especially shut down but nevertheless it entered.
Now I want to take 2 4AD and 2 Arom-X per day for one week and then only 2 Arom-X for one or two weeks.
But some questions are left.
1. Am I right that 4AD will suppress endo test production ?
2. If yes, will it be better to leave 4AD in order to raise endo test production as soon as possible?
3. How long do you think it will takes until Arom-X does his work ? Do you recommend to go up to 3 caps/day ?
4. Also have Novedex XT (Gaspari) Would it be a good idea to take it together with Arom-X ?

Thanks a lot for your advice

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Running anytype of PH may have some effect on natural test product. Are you still running the 1andro, if so dont drop the 4ad just yet sence u may experience some libido problems. Sence your already this far into cycle finish up with the 4ad and start the Arom-X at 3-4 a day. The Arom-x will work fine for your pct so save the Novedex XT for next cycle.

[wasilli]

I have dropped the 1AD allready.

[wasilli]

Thanks for your advice!

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Thanks for your advice!

Not a problem my man..Keep me updated.

[wasilli]

Short update an opinion about HR-Kit:
I´ve taken 3 Caps Arom-X for 5 days and 2 Caps for 3 days. After this time libido is back in business... So the shutdown was not as hard as I have feared.
For newbies in PH who want to avoid sides I would recommend the following model:
1 Week: 2*1AD
2 Week: 2*1AD / 2*4AD
3 Week: 3*1AD / 2*4AD
4 Week: 3*1AD / 3*4AD
5 Week: ------ / 3*4AD
6 Week: ------ / 2*4AD / 3-4*Arom X
7-8 Week: 3-4 Arom X
9-10 Week: 2 Arom X

I´m a fan of fading in and out because everybody reacts different and the possibility to check sides is better if one starts with lower dosages.

Because of personal reasons I only take it for 17 days. After that I´ve been 6,5lbs up. After 8 days of Arom-X I was 4,5lbs up. That is also the status at the moment. (93kg at 189cm)
But I think its like JohnJessica said. It will be better to use it some weeks longer. With proper dietry it should be possible to hold 8-10lbs after pct.

Once more thank you everybody for aour advice

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Short update an opinion about HR-Kit:
I´ve taken 3 Caps Arom-X for 5 days and 2 Caps for 3 days. After this time libido is back in business... So the shutdown was not as hard as I have feared.
For newbies in PH who want to avoid sides I would recommend the following model:
1 Week: 2*1AD
2 Week: 2*1AD / 2*4AD
3 Week: 3*1AD / 2*4AD
4 Week: 3*1AD / 3*4AD
5 Week: ------ / 3*4AD
6 Week: ------ / 2*4AD / 3-4*Arom X
7-8 Week: 3-4 Arom X
9-10 Week: 2 Arom X

I´m a fan of fading in and out because everybody reacts different and the possibility to check sides is better if one starts with lower dosages.

Because of personal reasons I only take it for 17 days. After that I´ve been 6,5lbs up. After 8 days of Arom-X I was 4,5lbs up. That is also the status at the moment. (93kg at 189cm)
But I think its like JohnJessica said. It will be better to use it some weeks longer. With proper dietry it should be possible to hold 8-10lbs after pct.

Once more thank you everybody for aour advice

Im glad it worked out for you buddy.