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  1. New craze test


    Hate to stir up an old topic but what does you or beejis think of this new Craze test? Like I said in the supp forum thread The fact that DS knew about the test beforehand invalidates the results. That's the opposite of random testing since they knew which batches were gonna be tested in. Like they would just remove it until the tests thru ordered are done. Somebody lock this thread or delete it if I'm causing trouble by bringing it up.


  2. i dont understand. what was the chain of custody? who supplied the lab with the craze?
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  3. in 4 some jimmy rustling

  4. None of those lots were ones i tested

    Perhaps Avomeen can test one of the lots i tested, using proper chain of custody

    I dont imagine things that show up on my GC/MS people. Nor do i make crap up



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  5. Can you share with us the results of your tests, Pat?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bossman523 View Post
    Can you share with us the results of your tests, Pat?

    i could
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  7. but you won't

  8. but will you?

  9. yes i will post the gc chromatogram, the mass spectrum of the peak in question, and the mass spectrum of the compound in question that i got from scientific literature
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  10. Will you give the lot numbers? Have you tested any recent batches?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Will you give the lot numbers? Have you tested any recent batches?

    No i am not.
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  12. i am sorry, the files dont fit. if someone wants to resize them and post them then let me know. i dont have the time to fool around myself
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  13. Ill do it, pa

  14. If the file don't fit, you must acquit.
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  15. ah yea!

  16. I'm suprised there hasn't been any more Craze news since the Europeans tested it... You'd think something that (allegedly) was spiked with a methamphetamine metabolite wouldn't be around anymore.

    I'm still pissed that I was putting that crap in my body for several months straight. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Ceredumbellum View Post
    I'm suprised there hasn't been any more Craze news since the Europeans tested it... You'd think something that (allegedly) was spiked with a methamphetamine metabolite wouldn't be around anymore.

    I'm still pissed that I was putting that crap in my body for several months straight. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way.


    if there is a criminal investigation going on then it has to be thorough and can take quite a while
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  18. results of a product i tested a year ago

    http://i.imgur.com/ExglPKW.png

    http://i.imgur.com/Anjrhfz.png

    http://i.imgur.com/LgTU131.png



    the first image is the gc chromatogram. the peak in question has an arrow on it

    the second image is n,a-diethylphenethylamine mass spectrum from the literature

    the third image is the mass spectrum of the peak i pointed out. the scan begins at 50. it is practically a perfect match
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    if there is a criminal investigation going on then it has to be thorough and can take quite a while

    are you one of the lead investigators, Pat?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    results of a product i tested a year ago

    http://i.imgur.com/ExglPKW.png

    http://i.imgur.com/Anjrhfz.png

    http://i.imgur.com/LgTU131.png



    the first image is the gc chromatogram. the peak in question has an arrow on it

    the second image is n,a-diethylphenethylamine mass spectrum from the literature

    the third image is the mass spectrum of the peak i pointed out. the scan begins at 50. it is practically a perfect match

    BTW, tht peak at 148 is due to loss of an ethyl radical from alpha cleavage

    you would not see such a large peak if the compound were N,N-diethyl

    I dont know why i posted this, it seems to mean nothing to anybody
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  21. It would mean a shortage of craze if these were the results of current batches.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    results of a product i tested a year agohttp://i.imgur.com/ExglPKW.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Anjrhfz.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/LgTU131.pngthe first image is the gc chromatogram. the peak in question has an arrow on itthe second image is n,a-diethylphenethylamine mass spectrum from the literaturethe third image is the mass spectrum of the peak i pointed out. the scan begins at 50. it is practically a perfect match
    Should have saved those samples to give to me. NMR would have been the smoking gun, although I believe you still have it, two sources of analysis would crush it. N-H proton sticks out like Lebron in china.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Should have saved those samples to give to me. NMR would have been the smoking gun, although I believe you still have it, two sources of analysis would crush it. N-H proton sticks out like Lebron in china.

    You would have to chromatographically isolate out the compound from the product though. And that peak coming out right prior (which appears to be n-isopropylidene-phenethylamine) probably wouldnt separate easily

    i still have the jar
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Ceredumbellum View Post
    I'm suprised there hasn't been any more Craze news since the Europeans tested it... You'd think something that (allegedly) was spiked with a methamphetamine metabolite wouldn't be around anymore.

    I'm still pissed that I was putting that crap in my body for several months straight. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way.
    i felt the product was dangerous back in 2011 when i won a sample... i gave my review of the product back then and was the only one on this forum that found something wrong with it. i said that day i thought there was something in it that was not right. guess i was right but why didn't any of the other reviewers speak up then? YOUR CHANCE to try Craze by Driven Sports <- link to my 2011 review of craze

  25. Quote Originally Posted by _mArs_ View Post
    i felt the product was dangerous back in 2011 when i won a sample... i gave my review of the product back then and was the only one on this forum that found something wrong with it. i said that day i thought there was something in it that was not right. guess i was right but why didn't any of the other reviewers speak up then? YOUR CHANCE to try Craze by Driven Sports <- link to my 2011 review of craze

    its herd mentality. if you dont say its great you get attacked.

    of course, should this product be verified to contain a designer stimulant you will see the herd change overnight. Everyone will comment on how they knew it was dangerous the whole time, and how scared they are now

    thats exactly what happened with slim extreme
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