New craze test

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by _mArs_ View Post
    did you say this on the forum then? i did and i was the only one that found something wrong with it (of those who were given free samples to review on this forum) and that's what's wrong with the industry as well... people giving false feedback in hopes to get more free stuff... i was honest... i felt weird and knew something was wrong with the ingredients.

    Posted it with the wrong name in the title, but I did a review,

    DS Drive Review


  2. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Posted it with the wrong name in the title, but I did a review,

    DS Drive Review

    interesting review
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  4. So is the consensus that what is in craze is not an extract of dendrobium?
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  5. Thank you for your respectful reply mr bone(er), but what i was trying to understand is that despite being amphetamine like, or amphetamine analogues, are the compounds in question completely synthetic and not found naturally, or could they actually be extracted from a natural source.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by slowprogress View Post
    So is the consensus that what is in craze is not an extract of dendrobium?


    in my head it sure is
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by slowprogress View Post
    Thank you for your respectful reply mr bone(er), but what i was trying to understand is that despite being amphetamine like, or amphetamine analogues, are the compounds in question completely synthetic and not found naturally, or could they actually be extracted from a natural source.
    there is no evidence of this chemical being present in any natural source. i have more comments to make on this based on my personal testing that would clarify this further, but for legal reasons i shouldnt discuss my private testing of this product publically
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  8. Ok, thanks. That's a shame, I quite liked craze in moderation, much as i quite liked dmaa in moderation. But if it's a designer stim then it's a little unfair on the competition.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by slowprogress View Post
    So is the consensus that what is in craze is not an extract of dendrobium?
    The guys at examine cannot find a single piece of literature showing it contains anything worth while for a preworkout.

    http://examine.com/supplements/Dendrobium/

    I'll admit I bought a tub and I was not impress. I either had a tolerance to these compounds or I got a clean batch.
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  10. Found this on bb. Cahill was stating what he would want to ask the FDA. Last paragraph is the funny part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sldge View Post
    Its odd how they feel they can do the correct job in enforcing DSHEA (which I would really love for them to do) when they have enough problems trying to regulate RX drugs.

    In recent years they have approved drugs for use that have had horrific side effects (phen/fen combo for example). As well as approving drugs like Botox for what is purely a cosmetic use. Yet they banned ephedra which was far safer then phen/fen.

    As adults we arent allowed to choose to use prohormones (because they banned those as well) for what might be considered a cosmetic use. However any women on the planet can choose to go on hormone replacement therapy (thats what birth control is) for the rest of their lives should they want it. Their only requirement would be to go to a free clinic and ask for it.

    I guess Id just like to know when they are going to finally start being consistent. They dont need more regulations or to further restrict adults from the use of supplements. They've already done enough of that. DSHEA is all that is needed, just make sure all supplement companies conform to those rules.
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  11. I was one of the first to buy craze because of the raving reviews, yet it still remains sealed fresh in my supplement box of excess supps. I never use a stimulant Pre, learnt from leangains BCAAs were very important pre workout when IFing and I added other powders as recommended by most here, Cit mal, BA, etc. Also I usually take stimulant containing supps throughout the day, plus hypertrophy is my main objective, hence it wasn't required.

    What should I do with it..? I'm guessing not to try it for starters..?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by outlawed View Post
    I was one of the first to buy craze because of the raving reviews, yet it still remains sealed fresh in my supplement box of excess supps. I never use a stimulant Pre, learnt from leangains BCAAs were very important pre workout when IFing and I added other powders as recommended by most here, Cit mal, BA, etc. Also I usually take stimulant containing supps throughout the day, plus hypertrophy is my main objective, hence it wasn't required. What should I do with it..? I'm guessing not to try it for starters..?
    Plenty of people would pay top dollar for that tub lol. I of course am not one or them.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Crooks the whole company! This is the exact **** that's going to get the supplement industry completely ****ing regulated and controlled by the fda. Think of how many high school kids were taking that **** all the while unknowingly ingesting Ethamphetamines.
    I am curious how many soldiers may have pissed hot for taking this.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by outlawed View Post
    I was one of the first to buy craze because of the raving reviews, yet it still remains sealed fresh in my supplement box of excess supps. I never use a stimulant Pre, learnt from leangains BCAAs were very important pre workout when IFing and I added other powders as recommended by most here, Cit mal, BA, etc. Also I usually take stimulant containing supps throughout the day, plus hypertrophy is my main objective, hence it wasn't required.

    What should I do with it..? I'm guessing not to try it for starters..?
    Unless you have to drug test for something, try it. You might like it, you might not. I like it at around one scoop pwo. I can certainly say I haven't been stealing babies to sell their organs on the black market for my next fix.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by slowprogress View Post
    Unless you have to drug test for something, try it. You might like it, you might not. I like it at around one scoop pwo. I can certainly say I haven't been stealing babies to sell their organs on the black market for my next fix.
    Oh, well thats a relief..

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Plenty of people would pay top dollar for that tub lol. I of course am not one or them.
    Quote Originally Posted by slowprogress View Post
    Unless you have to drug test for something, try it. You might like it, you might not. I like it at around one scoop pwo. I can certainly say I haven't been stealing babies to sell their organs on the black market for my next fix.
    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Plenty of people would pay top dollar for that tub lol. I of course am not one or them.
    Quote Originally Posted by slowprogress View Post
    Unless you have to drug test for something, try it. You might like it, you might not. I like it at around one scoop pwo. I can certainly say I haven't been stealing babies to sell their organs on the black market for my next fix.
    Thanks guys. Yeah I know it's worth decent $$ but that amount isn't life changing lol. Like I said stim prewos do not interest me so I have no use for it...How long do emphetamines stay in the system..? Don't have a drug test soon but might have one if competing or work, etc. down the track. Thanks.

  17. Ooohh, so spicy...

  18. Quote Originally Posted by outlawed View Post
    Thanks guys. Yeah I know it's worth decent $$ but that amount isn't life changing lol. Like I said stim prewos do not interest me so I have no use for it...How long do emphetamines stay in the system..? Don't have a drug test soon but might have one if competing or work, etc. down the track. Thanks.
    Given this is an analog to Methamphetamine
    Here is a simple list http://www.passyourdrugtest.com/timetable.htm

    Here are a few studies with a bit more realistic data.
    http://www.clinchem.org/content/48/10/1703.full
    http://www.labmed.yale.edu/Images/de...tcm45-9313.pdf

    But take this data with a grain of salt as this is not the actual chemical in question so short of PA I doubt there is anyone on this forum who can give you a real answer as these are unstudied analogs from what I know.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by hippo1245 View Post
    much better than the circle jerk going on at the tl forums. all 8 people reading it.
    Yeah, that bb.com thread had a ton of views though...shame some vagina had to cry to the mods about it and get it deleted...

  20. Quote Originally Posted by GigaPaladin View Post
    Yeah, that bb.com thread had a ton of views though...shame some vagina had to cry to the mods about it and get it deleted...
    It was a good thread so it got deleted.

    I'll tell you though, I don't know why it took this long for me but I am done with Gaspari.
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  21. What blows my mind is the fact that GNC is still selling this stuff in full force. I thought they tried to avoid products like this like the plague. Hmm

  22. Interesting thread. Sub'd

  23. I would like to get in the class action lawsuit if there is one, although I havent taken craze since the original batch i would like to get some more of that batch lololol that might sound hypocritical but the relaxing euphoric feeling it gave me felt better than addys.

    if this new batch does have the same effect i may buy a couple before they pull it just to have

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ericool007 View Post
    I would like to get in the class action lawsuit if there is one, although I havent taken craze since the original batch i would like to get some more of that batch lololol that might sound hypocritical but the relaxing euphoric feeling it gave me felt better than addys.

    if this new batch does have the same effect i may buy a couple before they pull it just to have
    My gf took me to the mall and in GNC they actually have it on sale for a reasonable price atm (45 servings for $36 amazingly) so i wrote down the lot numbers they had and checked the lot numbers against the ones listed here. No match lol...was thinking about maybe trying it rofl
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