3,3-azo-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

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  1. 3,3-azo-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol


    Hey i came across this supplement that comes out tomorrow and found it interesting. It is called Triumphalis which is Methyldiazirinol. Its said to be very similar to Superdrol in its Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio. Anyone know anything about this or anything? Thanks!


  2. I think it was written about in totalflexblog.com
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ccrunkle View Post
    Methyldiazirinol.
    That's quite a mouthful.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    I think it was written about in totalflexblog.com
    Yea thats it i just read up on that blog, thanks for finding that btw. It said superdrol has a ratio of 400/20 and triumpalis has ratio of 300/20. Defiantly interesting!

  5. I seriously doubt this stuff being stable for a reasonable amount of time.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    I seriously doubt this stuff being stable for a reasonable amount of time.

    it could be explosive
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    it could be explosive
    Eh, I doubt it. I've been working with a lot of diazos recently/currently and they're not as scary as everyone says... especially if alpha to an ester, that stuff is stable at well over 60 *C, ground glass joints, everything.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Eh, I doubt it. I've been working with a lot of diazos recently/currently and they're not as scary as everyone says, especially if alpha to an ester.

    bummer
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  10. Check edit, but I would agree. If it were explosive after N2 extrusion, I doubt they would have made it to the capping stage. Probably a lot of wurtz-like coupling with the carbenes though.
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  11. i use a reagent with diazomethane in it to derivatize ursolic acid so i can test it on my gc/ms. i use it in the hood cuz i am worried. is diazomethane really that scary?
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i use a reagent with diazomethane in it to derivatize ursolic acid so i can test it on my gc/ms. i use it in the hood cuz i am worried. is diazomethane really that scary?
    Oh ya, diazomethane is probably the worst for safety precautions outside of maybe t-butyllithium and methyl isocyanate. You need the diazomethane glassware kit and everything. But if you were to use TMS diazomethane however, then it's relatively innocuous. I still wouldn't try to use it as a grease for ground glass joints though Hydrazine isn't as bad as everyone says though.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Oh ya, diazomethane is probably the worst for safety precautions outside of maybe t-butyllithium and methyl isocyanate. You need the diazomethane glassware kit and everything. But if you were to use TMS diazomethane however, then it's relatively innocuous. I still wouldn't try to use it as a grease for ground glass joints though Hydrazine isn't as bad as everyone says though.
    I've worked with butyl lithium. Scary stuff. Had a septum cap leak on me coming out of the dry box, it caught an aluminum pan on fire it burned so hot.

  14. Butyllithium is essentially water when compared to t-butyllithium. Some retarded bitch died from using it like 1-2 years ago. Gives pyrophoricity a whole new meaning, though butyllithium is still pretty pyrophoric. Diazomethane is PRETTY damn explosive though. I would never work with it and I've worked with a ton of "dangerous" chemicals. TMS diazomethane FTW though. Ya it's a bit more expensive but probably a million times more stable. Plus I hate blast shields.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Butyllithium is essentially water when compared to t-butyllithium. Some retarded bitch died from using it like 1-2 years ago. Gives pyrophoricity a whole new meaning, though butyllithium is still pretty pyrophoric. Diazomethane is PRETTY damn explosive though. I would never work with it and I've worked with a ton of "dangerous" chemicals. TMS diazomethane FTW though. Ya it's a bit more expensive but probably a million times more stable. Plus I hate blast shields.

    yeah i think TMS diazomethane is what i use. Its a yellow liquid. Wikipedia says someone died after eating a hamburger that was near a fume hood where alot of diazomethane was generated. They say dont eat where you **** well dont eat where you do chemistry
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    yeah i think TMS diazomethane is what i use. Its a yellow liquid. Wikipedia says someone died after eating a hamburger that was near a fume hood where alot of diazomethane was generated. They say dont eat where you **** well dont eat where you do chemistry
    Ya, TMS diazomethane doesn't need the special glassware and is MUCH safer than legitimate diazomethane.
    Meh, I sometimes eat by my hood if I'm slammed with shyt to do. And I often set my coffee cup down in the hood too if I'm doing something that needs more than one hand.

    Details...
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Ya, TMS diazomethane doesn't need the special glassware and is MUCH safer than legitimate diazomethane.
    Meh, I sometimes eat by my hood if I'm slammed with shyt to do. And I often set my coffee cup down in the hood too if I'm doing something that needs more than one hand.

    Details...

    do you eat on the toilet too?
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  18. When you guys talking about drinking coffee in the hood, you are talking about Compton, right?
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    When you guys talking about drinking coffee in the hood, you are talking about Compton, right?
    That's what I took it as. I sometimes eat my soul food in the hood.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post
    That's what I took it as. I sometimes eat my soul food in the hood.

    Seoul food can only be eaten in South Korea fool
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  21. Off topic but PA, do you know chemists who've blown **** up by accident? Like is that a common thing?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    Off topic but PA, do you know chemists who've blown **** up by accident? Like is that a common thing?

    we have had three massive explosions throughout the years that easily could have killed people

    and our old production manager was adding sodium methoxide to a reactor at his old job when it ignited and blew up in his face. he has burns all on his face

    chemistry is dangerous
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    do you eat on the toilet too?
    Just chocolate.
    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    When you guys talking about drinking coffee in the hood, you are talking about Compton, right?
    :facepalm:
    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    Off topic but PA, do you know chemists who've blown **** up by accident? Like is that a common thing?
    Did you not read what I wrote? Some bitch died (burned to death) from using t-butyllithium improperly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    we have had three massive explosions throughout the years that easily could have killed peopleand our old production manager was adding sodium methoxide to a reactor at his old job when it ignited and blew up in his face. he has burns all on his facechemistry is dangerous
    Wait. Did he make it fresh or was it powdered NaOMe? I always make it fresh at -78 *C to avoid flashing.However, I always add Pd/C to the alcohol I'm performing the reaction and it always gets this cool mini-explosion of flame out the top of the flask for only a second, then it burns out. However, I had a pretty intense ether fire once; recrystallizing something in 2L of ether on a hot plate. A little solvent popped out of the 4L neck, hit the hot plate and just lit up my hot plate, the vapors, the ether in the flask and everything else. Even my tygon tubing was on fire. I covered the flask with a bigass beaker and all it did was burn around the flask. I hit it with the extinguisher with the flask still covered, finished my recrystallization like a boss, then cleaned up later.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Just chocolate.:facepalmid you not read what I wrote? Some bitch died (burned to death) from using t-butyllithium improperly.Wait. Did he make it fresh or was it powdered NaOMe? I always make it fresh at -78 *C to avoid flashing.However, I always add Pd/C to the alcohol I'm performing the reaction and it always gets this cool mini-explosion of flame out the top of the flask for only a second, then it burns out. However, I had a pretty intense ether fire once; recrystallizing something in 2L of ether on a hot plate. A little solvent popped out of the 4L neck, hit the hot plate and just lit up my hot plate, the vapors, the ether in the flask and everything else. Even my tygon tubing was on fire. I covered the flask with a bigass beaker and all it did was burn around the flask. I hit it with the extinguisher with the flask still covered, finished my recrystallization like a boss, then cleaned up later.
    I am pretty sure it was powdered sodium methoxide

    Anyway, you were heating ether on a hot plate? NEVER heat ether on a hot plate!! I learned this back in new jersey. It caught on fire like you said and it burns very hot and very intensely. I put it out with extinguisher. Good lord man. Use a hot water bath or something
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    I am pretty sure it was powdered sodium methoxide

    Anyway, you were heating ether on a hot plate? NEVER heat ether on a hot plate!! I learned this back in new jersey. It caught on fire like you said and it burns very hot and very intensely. I put it out with extinguisher. Good lord man. Use a hot water bath or something
    Ya, and the vapor is kinda dense so it's pretty easy to light up. I now use a heat gun or a rotovap bath.
    Powdered NaOMe is pretty hygroscopic and I suppose it's safer than preparing it or at least having to store pounds of sodium 0 and potential runaway. But I'm surprised to hear about a runaway exotherm with just adding NaOMe to methanol.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Ya, and the vapor is kinda dense so it's pretty easy to light up. I now use a heat gun or a rotovap bath.
    Powdered NaOMe is pretty hygroscopic and I suppose it's safer than preparing it or at least having to store pounds of sodium 0 and potential runaway. But I'm surprised to hear about a runaway exotherm with just adding NaOMe to methanol.

    i probably got the story wrong. maybe he was adding sodium to methanol to make it
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Ya, and the vapor is kinda dense so it's pretty easy to light up. I now use a heat gun or a rotovap bath.
    i hope you hold that heat gun far away when you do that
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    we have had three massive explosions throughout the years that easily could have killed people

    and our old production manager was adding sodium methoxide to a reactor at his old job when it ignited and blew up in his face. he has burns all on his face
    chemistry is dangerous
    Read that carefully all of you jagoffs and brochemists. If this can happen to trained and experienced chemists then it sure as hell can happen to you. Just a (not) so friendly heads-up to the idiots that think they can cook meth in their bathrooms and God knows what else invloving dangerous chemicals/ chemical reactions.

  29. I believe iron legion is directly affiliated with Anateus labs so I think its going to be a trustworthy company. As for all the chemistry stuff..oh I know exactly what you're talking about..connect the beeper with the bopper majig...excellent *looks around*

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Ceredumbellum View Post
    Read that carefully all of you jagoffs and brochemists. If this can happen to trained and experienced chemists then it sure as hell can happen to you. Just a (not) so friendly heads-up to the idiots that think they can cook meth in their bathrooms and God knows what else invloving dangerous chemicals/ chemical reactions.

    i use methanol to clean glassware so there is often methanol in my sink. several times i have thrown stuff with chromium trioxide residue into the sink and have had a fireball come up in my face
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  31. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i use methanol to clean glassware so there is often methanol in my sink. several times i have thrown stuff with chromium trioxide residue into the sink and have had a fireball come up in my face
    Chromium waste doesn't go down the sink, noob.
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  32. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Chromium waste doesn't go down the sink, noob.

    i said traces, i dont throw large amounts of chromium down the sink
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  33. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i said traces, i dont throw large amounts of chromium down the sink
    You love chromium VI in your water.
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  34. Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    You love chromium VI in your water.

    methanol reduces it to chromium III
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  35. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    methanol reduces it to chromium III
    aware


    you love formaldehyde and green CrIII too
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  37. On a side note though, would like to see if anyone has more info/links on this compound. Also any thoughts as to starting a test cycle with this for first few weeks, ie..progestinic issues?
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  38. Quote Originally Posted by tilldeath View Post
    On a side note though, would like to see if anyone has more info/links on this compound. Also any thoughts as to starting a test cycle with this for first few weeks, ie..prolactin issues?
    Prolactin issues?
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  39. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Prolactin issues?
    thx for catching that, coming up on finals and everything seems to blur together, keep calling my daughter my wife's name too.
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  40. Quote Originally Posted by tilldeath View Post
    On a side note though, would like to see if anyone has more info/links on this compound. Also any thoughts as to starting a test cycle with this for first few weeks, ie..progestinic issues?

    i dont think 5alpha reduced androgens can have much progestational acitivity
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