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Got Glycophase ...?
First time I've heard of this. Modified tocopherols and nicatinamides...interesting
i had heard of toxic xenoestrogens before, but this is new to me as well. in for PA info
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YepOriginally Posted by baldymcgee
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Will the real patrick arnold please stand up and share your vast wisdom on things mere mortals can only dream of knowing...
(well on monday, when your back to work.)
interested in learning about this
In to learn some new sh*t yo.
Maybe you guys have seen it, or not. A certain bodybuilding coach who calls himself mike is posting on a site about them. He already says in his experience they are not really of the same potency or effect of actual AAS. And you most likely won't see effects or gains anywhere near as quick, but there can also be no side-effects.
Wait wait, Xenoandrogens ? Phytoandrogens ? Pine Pollen is a phytoandrogen as is tinaspora cordifolia (natadrol).
It looks like these ****s infiltrated Wikipedia, made up scientific references and even registred a fake endocrinology journal website.
These 'studies'* about modified tocopherols/tocotrienols linked on Wikipedia and the fake endocrinology journal website (http://ej-endocrinology.org/) can not be found in their respective journals. All the 'info' on that fake EJ site is c/p from other sources, except the info about xenoandrogens. So it looks like modified tocopherols/tocotrienols usage as xenoandrogens is a marketing hype made up some East-European criminals.
- Mori****a, I; Okubo, K; Mizuno, Y; Sawada, M (2008). "Stimulation of androgenic receptors and protein synthesis by altered all-rac-alpha-tocopheryl acetate in mammals". Journal of Steroids and Hormone Science. doi:10.4172/2157-7536.1330104.
- ^ Gerber, W L; Dias, S; Warsawski, D; Williams, J. Androgenic and anabolic effects of gamma-tocopherol and alpha-tocopherol modifications on rats. Princeton Scientific Pub. Co.. pp. 9–13. [year missing]
- ^ Bauer, V; Smolensky, B; Bartosova, K; Smid, T (2010). "Use of xenoandrogens (altered tocopheryl acetate) in patients with testosterone deficiency". Hormone and Metabolic Research 31.
Good find. I mentioned in another post I think that it would def be worthwhile in my opinion if I were to get get the stuff to definitely see if I could get it analyzed first. It is pretty weird that the blog some guy claims to run and not have any connection to any companies has his site linked by the place that sells them.