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Best Racetam Pre Workout

  1.  05-27-2012  12:25 PM
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    Best Racetam Pre Workout


    Was thnking of phasing out stims, DMAA, for a while and dabble in nootropics as pre workout supps.

    Caffeine in the form of strong coffee is mandatory though and although i have used ephedra and DMAA products any extra caffeine gives me some anxiety type / breathless feelings which really stuffs my workout up.

    As i train early in the morning, sometimes fasted, I mainly need the focus, attention and get-up-and-go and asap.

    I know there are fat-soluble and water-soluble nootropics but would you recommend any particular one that would be more suited to my situation.



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    Phenylpiracetam

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    ^This. Not sure why you would take any racetam preworkout though. They do not confer focus in the manner you are expecting (except phenyl).
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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    ^This. Not sure why you would take any racetam preworkout though. They do not confer focus in the manner you are expecting (except phenyl).
    Have you tried Phenyl yourself? From the way some have described it it sounded like a stimulant more than regular nootropic.

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    Originally Posted by chimeranD View Post
    Have you tried Phenyl yourself? From the way some have described it it sounded like a stimulant more than regular nootropic.
    Indeed I have and it is pretty much a stimulant.
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    Originally Posted by chimeranD View Post
    Have you tried Phenyl yourself? From the way some have described it it sounded like a stimulant more than regular nootropic.

    "Phenyl"piracetam has the familiar phenylethylamine pharmacophore, so it shouldn't be surprising that it has some proclivity for the adrenergic system.

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    And the best place to buy this? Just been looking and there's not a whole lot of suppliers out there. Is it sold under another name?

    Thanks to.

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    Originally Posted by Jag View Post
    And the best place to buy this? Just been looking and there's not a whole lot of suppliers out there. Is it sold under another name?

    Thanks to.
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    mr.cooper, what dose did you use?

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    I've used between 200 and 600mg daily. Unfortunately, I never found a sweet spot because I would get variable effects, even when dosed at the exact same dosage but on different days.
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    Thank you for your quick reply

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    I'm assuming the dose would be taken on an empty stomach?

    Also, how long before you started to feel it kicking in?

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    http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/phenylpiracetam/

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    Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/phenylpiracetam/

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    Analytical test results: Demiurge: Phenylpiracetam Analysis Results
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    Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Very nice! Is it available for purchase yet?
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    Yes.
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    Originally Posted by henryv
    Nice! I see it's your blog. Very nice write up.
    "I don't care if I make history, I wanna be part of infinite"
    "the reason why theres no light at the end of the tunnel cause were really not in a tunnel were trapped in a bubble"

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    Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    Nice! I see it's your blog. Very nice write up.
    Thank you.
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    Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    Nice! I see it's your blog. Very nice write up.
    Indeed. He even cites russian studies. Props
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