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  1.  04-03-2012  06:04 PM
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    This study appears to be blowing up right now: Green Coffee Beans May Aid Weight Loss.

    Cliffs: With net energy consumption held constant, green coffee bean extract produced dramatic fat loss effects in overweight and obese individuals.


    Now, I've always been interested in green coffee bean extract for some specific health benefits, but I'm wondering which constituents you think may be responsible for the above results.

    Also, what are your thoughts on Green Coffee Bean Extract as an ergogenic aid? I'm thinking along the lines of 8-methylcaffeine and bronchodilaton.

    Thanks for your thoughts PA



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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This study appears to be blowing up right now: Green Coffee Beans May Aid Weight Loss.

    Cliffs: With net energy consumption held constant, green coffee bean extract produced dramatic fat loss effects in overweight and obese individuals.


    Now, I've always been interested in green coffee bean extract for some specific health benefits, but I'm wondering which constituents you think may be responsible for the above results.

    Also, what are your thoughts on Green Coffee Bean Extract as an ergogenic aid? I'm thinking along the lines of 8-methylcaffeine and bronchodilaton.

    Thanks for your thoughts PA

    i sold the stuff as part of my AMP2 formula. Chlorogenic acid is the purported main active
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    ^ That would make sense since roasted coffee does not seem to demonstrate a similar effect. Since you're a chemist, I figured I'd ask: what is the MOA of chlorogenic acid? I see that it inhibits fat absorption (though it is well-tolerated in the GI tract so this can't be the main effect e.g. GI issues and oily stools caused by Orlistat), but it also seems to have other effects (i.e. lowered resting HR, though this could be a result of the bronchodilatory effects of the methylcaffeine, not sure). This latest study also used a very high dose of green coffee bean extract so whatever the MOA is, it's dose-dependent.

    Also, why can't I find AMP 2 anywhere?

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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    ^ That would make sense since roasted coffee does not seem to demonstrate a similar effect. Since you're a chemist, I figured I'd ask: what is the MOA of chlorogenic acid?
    what would being a chemist have to do with knowing the MOA of that stuff? Chemists study chemistry, that is more of a pharmacology question

    anyway, i dont remember all the MOAs. Its not something that I stored in my long term memory. The information is only a few google clicks away though I am sure

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    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    what would being a chemist have to do with knowing the MOA of that stuff? Chemists study chemistry, that is more of a pharmacology question

    anyway, i dont remember all the MOAs. Its not something that I stored in my long term memory. The information is only a few google clicks away though I am sure

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    It's latest incarnation is ErgoBurn NMT, yes?

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    If I'm thinking correctly, the newest hydroxycut has green coffee been extract. Does anyone know if this can be purchased elsewhere?
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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the newest Hydroxycut have green coffee bean in the ingredients?

    Besides hydroxycut, assuming I'm correct, can green coffee bean be purchased elsewhere?
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    Sorry about the double post. Using the phone app, didn't think my first reply to the thread had sent. Phone crashed trying to send it!

    Anyways... ?
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    Another company was using this stuff way back when just for this reason, and sold it in bulk. There are a ton of threads on the MOA from previous research around here on AM.
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    Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Another company was using this stuff way back when just for this reason, and sold it in bulk. There are a ton of threads on the MOA from previous research around here on AM.
    good stuff, if only it didnt turn to a brick....

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    Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    It's latest incarnation is ErgoBurn NMT, yes?
    Yes that product shares lineage with AMP2 but it doesnt contain geranamine. plus god only knows if the guy who makes it didnt twist the formula all around from my original one to make more money. I definitely cannot give my approval of that product
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    Originally Posted by Natestreo View Post
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the newest Hydroxycut have green coffee bean in the ingredients?

    Besides hydroxycut, assuming I'm correct, can green coffee bean be purchased elsewhere?

    you probably can purchase the actual stuff at any herbal store
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    I wonder how purchasing the product at an herbal store and running it in combination with another thermogenic such as Alpha-T2 or Cellucor HD would do? Im considering it. Thoughts?

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    Green coffee bean extract is in the topical Abliderate Advanced as well.

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    There are many capped versions: LEF, Swanson, Source naturals and bac has bulk.

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    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    Yes that product shares lineage with AMP2 but it doesnt contain geranamine. plus god only knows if the guy who makes it didnt twist the formula all around from my original one to make more money. I definitely cannot give my approval of that product
    Ha, ya I figured you wouldn't be giving it the 'PA seal of approval'
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    Originally Posted by Natestreo View Post
    I wonder how purchasing the product at an herbal store and running it in combination with another thermogenic such as Alpha-T2 or Cellucor HD would do? Im considering it. Thoughts?

    experimentation time
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    any need to supplement this if I'm using Abliderate Advanced which has it.

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    Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    any need to supplement this if I'm using Abliderate Advanced which has it.
    beats me
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    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    experimentation time
    Thats what i'm thinking!

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