Ecdysterone yes or no?

[oogaly_boogal]

So every now and again a new study comes out on ecdysterone that says something different. When I was younger I used a bottle of bug juice (ecdysterone) and my traps grew massive. Placebo effect? Puberty? Maybe, I was taking high dosages of it with a high intake of protein and having great results in growth and lifts. The only thing that is bringing me back to this is a new study showing cartilage growth in mice.

Ecdysterone repairs cartilage in joints


I have terrible joints (genetic), and several tears in my meniscus, so something like this coupled with cissus would be a godsend for me. That being said, what is your personal opinion PA.

Many thanks.

[Patrick Arnold]

So every now and again a new study comes out on ecdysterone that says something different. When I was younger I used a bottle of bug juice (ecdysterone) and my traps grew massive. Placebo effect? Puberty? Maybe, I was taking high dosages of it with a high intake of protein and having great results in growth and lifts. The only thing that is bringing me back to this is a new study showing cartilage growth in mice.

Ecdysterone repairs cartilage in joints


I have terrible joints (genetic), and several tears in my meniscus, so something like this coupled with cissus would be a godsend for me. That being said, what is your personal opinion PA.

Many thanks.

i really cant take a rat study like that and extrapolate what real world effects it would have on training male humans

[oogaly_boogal]

cool thanks.

[hvactech]

ecdy has been a huge let down for me in the past...

[truthornothin]

I've tried numerous ecdysterone supplements to no avail and with no apparent effect

[hvactech]

I've tried numerous ecdysterone supplements to no avail and with no apparent effect

exactly, even at mega doses....

[oogaly_boogal]

I guess when I took bugjuice a while back it was all in my head haha

thanks.

[Patrick Arnold]

I've tried numerous ecdysterone supplements to no avail and with no apparent effect

it may help with sparing protein if ingested with protein

[Patrick Arnold]

I guess when I took bugjuice a while back it was all in my head haha

thanks.

it was all in your thorax

[AbigailH47]

Thanks buddy, for giving an external link for "Ecdysterone repairs cartilage in joints". Its very useful and i appreciate your discussion above. I want more information, if you could give me some more...

[oogaly_boogal]

Thanks buddy, for giving an external link for "Ecdysterone repairs cartilage in joints". Its very useful and i appreciate your discussion above. I want more information, if you could give me some more...

Will provide when I get home. Essentially most ecdysterone studies were done long ago by the Russians. Supposed to help develop muscle while coupled with a high protein diet. Although it's thought now to only work on insects hence the thorax joke.

[Powercage]

I've tried numerous ecdysterone supplements to no avail and with no apparent effect

Same

[truthornothin]

Will provide when I get home. Essentially most ecdysterone studies were done long ago by the Russians. Supposed to help develop muscle while coupled with a high protein diet. Although it's thought now to only work on insects hence the thorax joke.

Noticed your sig is a quote I posted on Rosie's thread is that where you got it? Just curious

[oogaly_boogal]

Noticed your sig is a quote I posted on Rosie's thread is that where you got it? Just curious

No it was my sig on bodybuilding/com

[truthornothin]

No it was my sig on bodybuilding/com

Just curious, one of my favorite quotes

[oogaly_boogal]

Agreed. That and hubbard's "to escape criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing."

[AbigailH47]

Will provide when I get home. Essentially most ecdysterone studies were done long ago by the Russians. Supposed to help develop muscle while coupled with a high protein diet. Although it's thought now to only work on insects hence the thorax joke.

That means Russians are more towards the research for providing a better physique!! Gr8*
Share some links if you can....

[oogaly_boogal]

That means Russians are more towards the research for providing a better physique!! Gr8*
Share some links if you can....

The issue with the Russian studies is a lot of them aren't published online, uhm here is a link to a bunch of studies on ecdysterone.

http://www.mendeley.com/tags/*ecdysterone/

[BBB]

The Russians inject the stuff.

[Patrick Arnold]

The Russians inject the stuff.

it would be very easy to inject ecdy since its water soluble. dissolve some high pure ecdy powder in water, sterilize with syringe filter, and inject