38 years old and 218 test level ?

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  1. As I understand it, hCG can desensitized the leydig cells over time. Are you guys who take hCG not concerned about that?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by vkg1 View Post
    As I understand it, hCG can desensitized the leydig cells over time. Are you guys who take hCG not concerned about that?
    Yeah only if ur running high doses. When on cycle, hcg doesnt cause any more desensitization than the T is already doing.

    100iu daily or 250iu twice weekly isnt going to desensitize the leydig cells WHILE CYCLING steroids.
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  3. Crislers TRT protocol says 250iu of HCG T-2 and T-1, with weekly test injections on day T.

  4. Anybody getting dry joints from test pins?

  5. Hi,
    Had my test, was 278, my Dr. prescribed Androderm 19.5 mg , delivery of 4mg / day ,( patch ) had a retest after 3 months range is 470 now. I would prefer the injectable as the patch burns the hell out of my skin , I mentioned to my Dr. , and her reply was " I can discontinue " . Do you think a specialist would be more approachable ?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by lofting4fun View Post
    Hi, Had my test, was 278, my Dr. prescribed Androderm 19.5 mg , delivery of 4mg / day ,( patch ) had a retest after 3 months range is 470 now. I would prefer the injectable as the patch burns the hell out of my skin , I mentioned to my Dr. , and her reply was " I can discontinue " . Do you think a specialist would be more approachable ?
    This is a bit of a thread hijack, but yes. Their are doctors who will listen to you.
    Everything I say is fictional and for entertainment purposes only. Do not ask me for sources. I dont have any.

  7. Well just came back from getting my blood work and my test is 1200. That's pretty dame high I think. The doc looked shocked . He said he thinks I responding to well. Anybody think that's to high? Other then some aggression that I'm getting better at controlling I feel f ing great. In a side note what do you guys think of doing a cycle of extreme mass while in test?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by sinnfinn View Post
    Well just came back from getting my blood work and my test is 1200. That's pretty dame high I think. The doc looked shocked . He said he thinks I responding to well. Anybody think that's to high? Other then some aggression that I'm getting better at controlling I feel f ing great. In a side note what do you guys think of doing a cycle of extreme mass while in test?
    What dose and frequency did you end up doing.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by sinnfinn View Post
    Well just came back from getting my blood work and my test is 1200. That's pretty dame high I think. The doc looked shocked . He said he thinks I responding to well. Anybody think that's to high? Other then some aggression that I'm getting better at controlling I feel f ing great. In a side note what do you guys think of doing a cycle of extreme mass while in test?
    I wouldn't say it's too high if you feel good and your E2 levels are good and you aren't experiencing negative sides. Test is more than just about a number. I'm hovering around 1400-1500 and my doc is keeping it there for now but we are keeping a close eye on my hematocrit. I feel like a million bucks. Some would say that's too high but the rest looks good and I go back in 2 weeks. What did he do to your dose?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    ... If you find a DR that prescribes bi-weekly, find another Dr. I do 200mg and an AI 2 weekly and I'm right at 1500 and feel like a million bucks. ...
    I agree with 100%. Hell, I talked my doc into twice a week when I was on replacement! Even weekly gives too much inconsistency, at least with cyp. You can get away with weekly for enanthate, but bi-weekly is futile.
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  11. I tried the shoots but was not likening the sore ass so I tried the pellets. I have 8. It hurt for two days and now I'm great. Were going to keep tabs on the numbers and see how long they last. So far I love it. Plus I'm a beast in the gym.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by sinnfinn View Post
    I tried the shoots but was not likening the sore ass so I tried the pellets. I have 8. It hurt for two days and now I'm great. Were going to keep tabs on the numbers and see how long they last. So far I love it. Plus I'm a beast in the gym.
    I like the ability to control things better with the shots. I've never been sore from a shot except once when I plunged as hard n fast as I could. Since then easy breezy.

  13. I agree with having control but so far I noticed with the shots my mood went up and down as they kicked and weakened. With the pills is been even and smooth. Maybe I did something wrong I guess. Time will tell. I'll let you know

  14. Hey guys, sorry for the intrusion, but what are "pellets" and why do they cause issues?

  15. I know one guy on pellets and he has nothing bad to say about them. They are the lowest maintenance TRT option. He obviously responded well to them but he gets a 3000mg pellet every 3 months. He claims an 1100 ng T level for 2 of the three months then it tapers down to 700-800 by end of third month.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by sinnfinn View Post
    I agree with having control but so far I noticed with the shots my mood went up and down as they kicked and weakened. With the pills is been even and smooth. Maybe I did something wrong I guess. Time will tell. I'll let you know
    Yeah, the proper TRT would be Test Sus or Prop fpr everyday injections in the AM around 10-20mg/day.

  17. i understand your frustrations my friend, i am 48 and have been on test cypionate for 2 years now,on and off, mostly on 200 mg per week
    my numbers were 278, and i experience the same effects as yourself .i think you making a wise choice in going to see a dr, thats what i did and let me tell you that i feel better than ever , be careful though, it can have side effects if not properly used.
    use but dont abuse, mi libido is incredible, my strengh off the charts, i am calm and happy, i lost 30 lbs in 2 months
    when you do it you have to have a clean diet, is paramount i think, that way you minimize side effedts, take a supplement like erase pro is amazing, my blood test came back great, my estrogeen was dowm a lot to normal levels even with test, no need for pharma products, try this is great
    any questions i will be more than happy to answer, bro, good luck

  18. ... And what are your numbers now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronsunny View Post
    i understand your frustrations my friend, i am 48 and have been on test cypionate for 2 years now,on and off, mostly on 200 mg per week my numbers were 278,
    A-Minds HYPE-SLAYER! All posts & feedback are guaranteed to be unsolicited and legit
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  19. my numbers now are between 1000 and 1100
    i has been like that for 6 months

  20. That's awesome buddy

    Quote Originally Posted by ronsunny View Post
    my numbers now are between 1000 and 1100 i has been like that for 6 months
    A-Minds HYPE-SLAYER! All posts & feedback are guaranteed to be unsolicited and legit
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  21. Well here's a update. It's been 3 months and I'm feeling like crap. I went back to day for bloods and I'm down to 490. In feb I was 1290. I guess the pellets don't last as long as they said. The nurse told me because i workout they burn up quicker. I go back in 4 days to redo the pellets or I'm going to maybe try shots. But I really don't want to have a sore ass every week. Can't wait to be back to feeling like a beast

  22. Quote Originally Posted by sinnfinn View Post
    Well here's a update. It's been 3 months and I'm feeling like crap. I went back to day for bloods and I'm down to 490. In feb I was 1290. I guess the pellets don't last as long as they said. The nurse told me because i workout they burn up quicker. I go back in 4 days to redo the pellets or I'm going to maybe try shots. But I really don't want to have a sore ass every week. Can't wait to be back to feeling like a beast
    Shots are better. Soreness goes away after a few weeks of use. In fact, I dont get sore at all now.
  

  
 

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