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  1. Update:

    Holding steady at 10 lbs. Strength is stay through the roof.

    I have two weeks to go and I am hoping to put on another 2-3 lbs by the end of the run.

    The only bad side effect during this entire run has been anxiety. I believe this is due to E2. I am probably a little prone to this anyway so some of my injects have been put off a day or so. So it may end up being about 180mg a week to 200mg a week depending on how I feel. It is probably not a big deal but the whole anxiety thing freaks me out a little. And yes, the freaking out is really helpful to the anxiety.

    At the end of the two weeks to go I will be going on vacation. I will not be training so hopefully this will not have a huge negative impact on what I have gained. I figure it will be good to give my body a break anyway. I have ramped up my training and know that it is not sustainable for the long run.

    Oh yeah, still trying to eat more and keep the calories up. I have also cut my walks out altogether. I was trying to walk everyday for 45 minutes or so at lunch. This has worked out well since it has gotten a bit warmer out. I will, however, start back with my walks after the blast and vacation. Walks are good for my mood and mind as well. Good time to put on some tunes and just space out.


  2. I am on vacation, and have tried to work out. It is just not happening. I guess this will be good, as I will start my blast once back from vacation.

    I have read many times it is good to give your body a rest periodically.

    Sounds like you have had a huge success so far. I hope I can gain 90% of what you have accomplished.

    At 190 MG per week Plus HCG, I do think I am a little more moody. I'll bet what you're experiencing happens to a lot of people, but they don't talk about it.
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  3. I am going to reserve my judgement of success until I am a few weeks past the end of my blast. I am about 11 lbs heavier and a ****load stronger that when I first started but I also know that my E2 is elevated as well. I don't "feel" bloated but I would be a fool to believe that none of this is water weight. Next time I do this (yes, I will do this again) I am hoping not to get sick and have a good base of what not to do and what to do from this blast.

    A couple of things I should have been on top of a little more is eating more and training more. I know "well duh" but eating quite a bit more definitely takes planning and discipline. I really like to eat but there were a few times where I was like "I am really not hungry but I cant miss this chance to get some calories in".

    The training was just me being in a mental mindset of needing to rest in order to grow. I think normally sound logic but with the added test there really isn't a need to rest as often as before. Not needing the rest should have been my first clue.

    About a week and a half to go. I'll do a final update at the end of the blast and try to update weekly after that so we know if I passed or failed.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by UJMRYDER View Post
    I am going to reserve my judgement of success until I am a few weeks past the end of my blast. I am about 11 lbs heavier and a ****load stronger that when I first started but I also know that my E2 is elevated as well. I don't "feel" bloated but I would be a fool to believe that none of this is water weight. Next time I do this (yes, I will do this again) I am hoping not to get sick and have a good base of what not to do and what to do from this blast.

    A couple of things I should have been on top of a little more is eating more and training more. I know "well duh" but eating quite a bit more definitely takes planning and discipline. I really like to eat but there were a few times where I was like "I am really not hungry but I cant miss this chance to get some calories in".

    The training was just me being in a mental mindset of needing to rest in order to grow. I think normally sound logic but with the added test there really isn't a need to rest as often as before. Not needing the rest should have been my first clue.

    About a week and a half to go. I'll do a final update at the end of the blast and try to update weekly after that so we know if I passed or failed.

    I hear you on the food. I literally dread how much I will need to eat on my blast. Even with planning it is a hassle, eat, eat, eat, and I DO like to eat.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by pappybay View Post
    I am on vacation, and have tried to work out. It is just not happening. I guess this will be good, as I will start my blast once back from vacation.

    I have read many times it is good to give your body a rest periodically.

    At 190 MG per week Plus HCG, I do think I am a little more moody. I'll bet what you're experiencing happens to a lot of people, but they don't talk about it.
    A deload is one of the most beneficial things you can do. Add them in about every 7-8 weeks and take a full week off. Vacation is the best time to do it because you actually get to enjoy yourself and not be concerned about hitting the weights.

    I would all but guarantee your moodiness is from the HCG. I won't get into it because everyone knows my stance on it, but I'd say that if you feel the need to take it, probably want to look into also adding an AI.
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  6. Okay, last update before vacation. This is also the last week of my blast. Weight is up 13 lbs.

    The Good:
    Strength, recovery, and joints are at an all time high. It is really silly the amount of strength I have gained. For example; before say I was doing BP sets of 225 and struggling on the last set, I am now doing sets of 255 and often I am mad at myself for not upping the weight at least on the last set. Similar situation for all of lifts. Almost makes it hard to get 100% out of your workouts.
    Visited good friends we hadn't seen in several weeks. Friends wife called later and asked if I was on "roids". She is unaware of my TRT. Wife echoed the same to me after the phone call. She asked me if I was taking anything else. I said no and that I have been just eating and training more. Felt a little bad but didn't want her to worry.
    I don't know what it is called, something like body dismorphia or something but I now know how people can suffer from this. I have had several people comment in the last 6 weeks or so on my size (good things). I have also had to start buying larger shirts (been needing to for a little while but not as much and I am a cheap bastard). I know I am bigger but I really dont feel like I am bigger. I see stuff I need to improve on more than anything. I am happy with myself but it does give me a little insight to people that have a bad problem with this. I guess sometimes we can be our own worst critic/enemy.
    More good; sides have been mild. I know I have some water retention. Libido has been fine but perhaps a little lower. Anxiety has been the worst but managable.

    The Bad:
    Pants are tighter. Diet was as clean as it should have been the last few weeks. Pissed at myself for this. Live and learn I guess. Part of the pants issue is that a lot of the tightness is in the thighs and the ass. I know I have made good gains in these areas. I do not have big legs so it is nice to see it but the pants are a pain in the ass. I don't know how you guys with big legs find pants to fit.
    I kind of don't want to stop the blast. I will because I know I will feel better but it makes it hard to give up the results I am getting. I did start TRT after all to stop feeling like crap.

    I will update after vacation and update in the weeks after to see what I retain. I will also do this again but it will not be for a while.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by UJMRYDER View Post
    Visited good friends we hadn't seen in several weeks. Friends wife called later and asked if I was on "roids". She is unaware of my TRT. Wife echoed the same to me after the phone call. She asked me if I was taking anything else. I said no and that I have been just eating and training more. Felt a little bad but didn't want her to worry.
    I don't know what it is called, something like body dismorphia or something but I now know how people can suffer from this. I have had several people comment in the last 6 weeks or so on my size (good things). I have also had to start buying larger shirts (been needing to for a little while but not as much and I am a cheap bastard). I know I am bigger but I really dont feel like I am bigger. I see stuff I need to improve on more than anything. I am happy with myself but it does give me a little insight to people that have a bad problem with this. I guess sometimes we can be our own worst critic/enemy.
    Yep, I deal with this and my best out is the fact that my dad is a beast at 74. I play the genetics card and the joke amongst everyone we know is that it is just my eastern European background (German and Hungarian). We have had friends coming around that we haven't seen in a long while and they are kind of taken back. I have always been more muscular than most, but when one of my wife's friends made a comment that, "damn, Andy looks great, but he is like a monster..." it is an odd feeling. I look and feel great, but when people that aren't athletic or workout notice that you are a "monster" it makes me think for a second if I am "too big". I hate that comment and I hate that idea because it comes from weak, lazy people, but it does make me think for a very brief moment.

    As far as the roids comments, I lived with that for the last year or two at work and now those same middle age guys are asking what they can do. LOL. I am never telling them about TRT because they need to figure out the hard way.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by UJMRYDER View Post
    Okay, last update before vacation. This is also the last week of my blast. Weight is up 13 lbs.


    I will update after vacation and update in the weeks after to see what I retain. I will also do this again but it will not be for a while.

    Brother, you have had awesome success with this. I have learned a lot reading your updates and appreciate you for taking the time. I am VERY interested in how your gain retention works out. I am just staring a blast, second week and my workouts are already getting crazy. Enjoy your vacation. We will be here waiting for the next update.


  9. Quote Originally Posted by pappybay View Post
    Brother, you have had awesome success with this. I have learned a lot reading your updates and appreciate you for taking the time. I am VERY interested in how your gain retention works out. I am just staring a blast, second week and my workouts are already getting crazy. Enjoy your vacation. We will be here waiting for the next update.

    Thanks for the kind words. I am back from vacation and have gone back down to my TRT dose (80mg) per week. The TRT dose was taken 1 week and two days after my last 100 mg blast dose. Vacation was decent. Lots of relaxing. I enjoyed the down time but it did wear me out a little not being able to train. I know a rest is a good idea but it is hard to throttle down after going so hard for a while.

    Weight is basically the same from when I left. I expected this but was not sure how it was going to play out. Vacation = out of whack diet. I did train yesterday and was very pleased with strength. I lifted at the same level as when I left. Of course, I had a nice rest but wasn't sure I would get back into it at the same level. Hopefully this continues to be the case. Already feeling a little better with the anxiety as well. Super pleased with the results but a touch disappointed in myself with the diet towards the end.

    Next several weeks will be eating better (and less) and working in my walking and limited cardio. I know I put on some fat so I will be trying to get rid of that. I will do some weekly updates on my status. Thanks again for everyone's support and help.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by UJMRYDER View Post
    Thanks for the kind words. I am back from vacation and have gone back down to my TRT dose (80mg) per week. The TRT dose was taken 1 week and two days after my last 100 mg blast dose. Vacation was decent. Lots of relaxing. I enjoyed the down time but it did wear me out a little not being able to train. I know a rest is a good idea but it is hard to throttle down after going so hard for a while.

    Weight is basically the same from when I left. I expected this but was not sure how it was going to play out. Vacation = out of whack diet. I did train yesterday and was very pleased with strength. I lifted at the same level as when I left. Of course, I had a nice rest but wasn't sure I would get back into it at the same level. Hopefully this continues to be the case. Already feeling a little better with the anxiety as well. Super pleased with the results but a touch disappointed in myself with the diet towards the end.

    Next several weeks will be eating better (and less) and working in my walking and limited cardio. I know I put on some fat so I will be trying to get rid of that. I will do some weekly updates on my status. Thanks again for everyone's support and help.

    Thanks for the update. Sounds like you are in a position to keep the gains. That is great news.

  11. Two weeks post blast update:

    With a full week of training under my belt I have had ups and downs. The ups and downs, more specifically, concern training. I had a couple of sessions that I was just not completing my lifts like I was before. This was extremely discouraging. Then towards the latter part of this week I exceeded some lifts and just generally felt stronger. Apparently the vacation made me weaker and more tired. Aren't vacations supposed to be revitalizing?

    Weight is down about 2.5-3 lbs. This is good. I guess I was carrying a good bit of extra water. I do not appear as big as I was but my stomach is a whole lot less bloated as well. I definitely feel better and the anxiety is nice to have gone. I am just thankful that overall my strength is still up.

    Again, next time I will search out an AI and probably run the blast longer than my 7.5-8 weeks. I think 8 weeks is a little on the short side but we will see in the next few weeks or so.

  12. I am three weeks into my blast and my strength gains are really evident. My weight is up about 4 lbs. I am making excellent improvements in my back and legs, not so much on chest.

    Was food, i.e., eating enough calories, an issue for you?

    BTW, GREAT UPDATE

  13. You aren't going to notice big gains in strength from the test, but you will gain size and weight. The strength increases will come from the decreased recovery time and the ability to train harder and longer. If you aren't taking advantage of that, then you'll see minimal increase in strength. Did you change up your routine for your blast?

  14. Loved the log. Making me think I should do the 250/ week and see what I can get out of it.

    Did you use the Adex all blast long? Couldn't figure that part out.

  15. So, both kisaj and UJM, you guys were both doing the 200mg split up in two 100mg injections per week?

    I was thinking of doing 400mg a week split in to two 200mg injections, but I honestly think 200mg EW may serve me better.

    I took one 200mg injection on Wednesday night and have been in a pissy mood ever since. Anxiety and worry also seem much higher....you both obviously made great gains with whatever you did. Did you use an AI throughout?

    I did a blast of 400mg for about 5-6 weeks late last year and had a great recomp...but, I've since got a promotion at work and have about 60-70 people under me...don't want to be a loose cannon and anxious!

  16. I'm not sure who some of these questions are directed to since I kind of hijacked onto this thread but I'll answer as if the were directed towards me.

    Pappybay - Yeah food was definitely a problem for me. I wanted and knew that I needed to get a lot of calories in but I often found it hard to do that. Well, lets just say that it was hard to get good quality calories in. If I could call ice cream "quality" I would have no problem getting them in. This is an area where I WILL do better next time. I guess no matter what your goal is diet and food prep take the most time but pay the biggest rewards.

    Kisaj - I did change my workout routine. For the most part, I did not take any days off the last half of the blast (4 weeks). The first half I took off 2-3 days a week. Per your suggestion I did train more during the blast and it worked out well because I virtually needed no recovery period. Good advice and will incorporate it earlier next time.

    lboston - For my blast I did not use an AI. I did start out with Erase but I quickly realized that it was not much, if any, help at the blast dose. I will use an AI next time as long as I feel comfortable with a domestic source.

    Delayed weekly update:

    I do not have a weight, but will get it as soon as I can. I am in the middle of trying to rehab - reseal my slate shower. I'm using another batheroom and it does not have the scale so my routine is all jacked up. I will say that the next weight is what I am going to believe is my net gain. I am pretty sure that all of my bloat is gone at this point. Clothes are fitting much better. This is also based on pure looks. Not scientific but I think pretty reasonable.

    Strength is still up which I am really pleased with. Most importantly I feel much better without any anxiety and my libido and sense of wellness is much better. Funny, I didn't think I felt really bad on the blast but I know I feel better on my TRT dose.

    One bummer is with the estrogen back in check I don't think my joints feel nearly as good. I worked the dog **** out of my body on the blast and my body/joints felt fantastic and now I am not training as hard and I am feeling it a little more. Of course I don't believe that higher estrogen is too good for the prostate so I guess it is a trade-off like anything else. My dad had prostate cancer so this is always in the back of my mind. I am not sure of the estro and cancer correlation but from what I have seen it does not appear to be a good thing to have elevated estro with or without cancer.

    Unintended possible positive consequences: My wife, who has struggled with her weight, has signed up for a local boot camp and has put a bunch of time and effort into food prep and nutrition. I did receive a fair amount of compliments during the blast and I think that my wife saw the positive changes as well as the hard work I was/am putting into it. She tends to do more cardio but has said recently that the boot camps and such are nice because they incorporate strength training. Obviously I believe in strength training but I know many women just don't see the massive benefits in it. I'm not saying that I am the one motivating her but I hope that I am a positive influence on her. Either way I think just making the effort is damn sexy.

    Will get a weight ASAP but wanted to be involved with this thread.

  17. Oh yeah, I did 200mg per week, split into two 100mg doses.

  18. I would like to give a recommendation for Nettle. Despite what some reports try to say, it works great for lowering SHBG and a good addition to someone with prostate cancer in their family. My dad survived it 7 years ago and his doc advised it as well.

    I have this in another thread, but my SHBG lowered from 45.2 (11-80 range) to 35 and it has averaged that. e2 also decreased- perhaps because of the increase in free test. This was after adding nettle root to my daily supps.

    Just a thought for you.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I would like to give a recommendation for Nettle. Despite what some reports try to say, it works great for lowering SHBG and a good addition to someone with prostate cancer in their family. My dad survived it 7 years ago and his doc advised it as well.

    I have this in another thread, but my SHBG lowered from 45.2 (11-80 range) to 35 and it has averaged that. e2 also decreased- perhaps because of the increase in free test. This was after adding nettle root to my daily supps.

    Just a thought for you.
    Thanks man. Good to have people looking out for each other. I too have read good things about stinging nettle root. Will work into to plan.

    Weight update. I did weigh in this morning at 8.5 lbs up from the start of my blast or 4.5 lbs down from the end of my blast. I am going to take back what I said about this being where I am going to measure my net gain. I think I am close but I find it hard to believe that I gained 8.5 lbs of lean mass in 8 weeks of a blast. My diet was not spot on and I think 8 weeks is a little on the short side. Truth be told I was expecting 5 lbs net gain which I would be very happy with. I am going to guess at this point that my net is probably 6.5 to 7 lbs. It is a guess but I think the only truly accurate way to tell would be a dexa scan before and after which is not a possibility for me.

    Will still do a few more weekly updates but I am pretty stoked with what I have gained and learned from this.

  20. Going to jump in and high jack this thread a bit...

    Started this blast about a week and a half ago and I am doing 200mg a week just as the other gentlemen in this thread.

    Starting weight was about 186-188 in the evening on the scale at home. Just weighed a few minutes ago and it was at 191.5...so, I'm guessing I may have a 3-5lb gain at this point.

    I got 405 x 1 for the first time on the bench today, so I was pretty stoked about that! I told myself that I'd get thereby age 30 and I'll be 29 in November. May have to think of another goals to get to now...

  21. Awesome. Keep the updates coming.

    I'll pop back in tomorrow for a weigh in and update.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by UJMRYDER View Post
    Awesome. Keep the updates coming.

    I'll pop back in tomorrow for a weigh in and update.
    Thanks- I sure will.

    I FEEL so much better just upping to 200mgs compared to the time I upped to 400mgs.

  23. I believe I will make this my last update. Weight is steady at 8.5 lbs up from beginning of blast. I am going to call the total lean mass gain at 7 lbs. I am being a little conservative because I feel like I am back body comp wise to where I was but it is still just a subjective guess.

    I don't know if its the effects of the blast, or what, but my libido has been stronger than ever. I don't know if it was that much worse on the blast or what but it is definitely noticeable. I once read something about adding more test to "wake up" androgen receptors but it sounded a little goofy to me.

    lboston - Keep the updates coming. I hope things go well and you can still feel good during your blast. That is, after all, a good reason that a lot of us are on TRT.

  24. Definitely on TRT to feel good. I had cancer and chemo at an early at. It wreaked havoc on my endocrine system...didn't discover until years later.


    Small update: weight is staying around 190--that's about a 5 pound increase from where I started in this mini-blast. Diet has not been as clean as normal, but I'm hungry all the time and have been snacking on natural ice cream and organic popcorn by the bag (at night). That's before my nightly shake.

    Strength is still up. New PRs every week. Did 3 sets of 315 for 5 reps on the bench and 3 sets of 405 for 5 reps on the barbell squat. Feeling strong!

  25. lboston,


    How goes the blast. In for update
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