35y old's first cycle - what you think?

  1. 35y old's first cycle - what you think?


    35y, male, 184cm, 81kg, 12% BF, training on-off since high school, now only diet is better and training seriously for 20 months.
    Started at 77kg 22% BF (mid 2011).

    Daily food and supplement equals to approx. 4000cal. (300g prot, 300g, carbs, 130g fat).

    Using a 4-day split routine. Minimal cardio.

    After a lot of research on internet, supplement shop owners and endocrinologist advice I came up with the following cycle:

    Week 1-4
    Test-e 500 weekly, dianabol 20mg daily

    Week 5-10
    Test-e 500 weekly

    Week 1-12
    Anastrozole 0.5mg every third day

    Week 1-10
    HCG 200iu twice a week

    PCT (week 13-16)
    Tamoxifen 40mg daily first two weeks then 20mg daily last two weeks.


    What do you guys think?


  2. Looks legit to me.... Only thing I would do is add the Dbol back in at the end. Start it back in at wk9 and run it till the day before you start pct. will help keep you makin gains all the way to the end.

  3. I would bump the HCG to minimum of 250 and maybe even 300 IU three times per week.....
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  4. exellent 1st cycle, my 1st cycle, my 1st was in late 80"s and you were just happy to find a few bottles here and there. 1st cycle was steris test cyp. 200mgs/ml did 400mgs a week with great resuls15 week cycle. estro blockers, what are they?

  5. Thanks for all the replies. The first injection made an abscess - 7 days of IV antibiotics. Then the idiot in me wanted to make sure it was the gear - another abscess and another 7 days of IV antibiotics. All the surgeons wanted to do was cut!!! I waited two weeks and then got some Organon Sus 250 - injecting E3D with 0.25mg arimidex on day of injection. Works like a charm!!

  6. Quote Originally Posted by TonyTiem
    35y, male, 184cm, 81kg, 12% BF, training on-off since high school, now only diet is better and training seriously for 20 months.
    Started at 77kg 22% BF (mid 2011).

    Daily food and supplement equals to approx. 4000cal. (300g prot, 300g, carbs, 130g fat).

    Using a 4-day split routine. Minimal cardio.

    After a lot of research on internet, supplement shop owners and endocrinologist advice I came up with the following cycle:

    Week 1-4
    Test-e 500 weekly, dianabol 20mg daily

    Week 5-10
    Test-e 500 weekly

    Week 1-12
    Anastrozole 0.5mg every third day

    Week 1-10
    HCG 200iu twice a week

    PCT (week 13-16)
    Tamoxifen 40mg daily first two weeks then 20mg daily last two weeks.

    What do you guys think?

    Looks pretty good. I definitely agree with pappy in that you should try 250iu HCG, 3 x per week. That's what I'm doing right now and... things look good.

    Id prolly throw some more test boosters in your PCT. Even just some DAA caps or something would be a nice addition. Good luck tho man!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TonyTiem View Post

    Using a 4-day split routine. Minimal cardio.

    What do you guys think?
    I know very little about the chemical side of it, but what does your W/O week look like?

  8. You're not going to be able to describe how good you will feel with the elevated testosterone! Especially your first run!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    You're not going to be able to describe how good you will feel with the elevated testosterone! Especially your first run!
    3, since I have never done a high mg cycle, is the "feel good" so strong you want to recreate iit over and over? I have been thinking about a run of 400 mg per week for 12 weeks.....

  10. Quote Originally Posted by pappybay View Post

    3, since I have never done a high mg cycle, is the "feel good" so strong you want to recreate iit over and over? I have been thinking about a run of 400 mg per week for 12 weeks.....
    I always leave my cycles open ended... you feel outstanding but for me at least, after 2+ months, you want to feel "normal" again. 400 made me feel outstanding (but you def need an AI). And I'm on trt so the whole PCT thing is a huge deal for you

  11. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    I always leave my cycles open ended... you feel outstanding but for me at least, after 2+ months, you want to feel "normal" again. 400 made me feel outstanding (but you def need an AI). And I'm on trt so the whole PCT thing is a huge deal for you
    Uh Oh, I was thinking that PCT wold not be a big deal as I will just revert back to my 160-180 mg per week.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by pappybay View Post

    Uh Oh, I was thinking that PCT wold not be a big deal as I will just revert back to my 160-180 mg per week.
    Oh if you're on trt no need for pct
  

  
 

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