Can an old man get huge?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by MEPSE View Post
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  2. My biggest issue to getting "huge" at 36 is the fact that I do not cut weight from around my waist the way I did when I was 22. I could cut weight by thinking about it back then and now I cut weight everywhere except my abs. So, at 202 now, I wouldn't want to put my body through the gauntlet it would have to endure to reach, say, 225-245, with low bf. That would mean that I would have to be around 255-265 in order to cut down to 225ish and stay around 8% bf. That isn't going to happen, period.

    On top of that, my joints are seriously killing me after each and every session now when back 10-14 years ago, I never had knee, back, ankle issues. That alone would keep me from getting "huge" right now.

    I have decided to look the best I can at 200-215 with as low bf as I can achieve. I can look huge at this weight if my bf is low enough. When i was around 235, around age 20ish, I was kinda of miserable in terms of comfort.

    But, of course, as the pic above shows, there are exceptions to all of these rules.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    My biggest issue to getting "huge" at 36 is the fact that I do not cut weight from around my waist the way I did when I was 22. I could cut weight by thinking about it back then and now I cut weight everywhere except my abs. So, at 202 now, I wouldn't want to put my body through the gauntlet it would have to endure to reach, say, 225-245, with low bf. That would mean that I would have to be around 255-265 in order to cut down to 225ish and stay around 8% bf. That isn't going to happen, period.

    On top of that, my joints are seriously killing me after each and every session now when back 10-14 years ago, I never had knee, back, ankle issues. That alone would keep me from getting "huge" right now.

    I have decided to look the best I can at 200-215 with as low bf as I can achieve. I can look huge at this weight if my bf is low enough. When i was around 235, around age 20ish, I was kinda of miserable in terms of comfort.

    But, of course, as the pic above shows, there are exceptions to all of these rules.
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    Cissus and Animal Flex and stretch stretch and stretch some more lifting will be so much more enjoyable. If ur an AAS guy stay away from Winny add NPP to any cycles

    And for the belly carb cycling works like a dream for me

    Taper those carbs off during the day get em in around WO and fasted cardio

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  4. I'm 35, stand 6ft 2in and weigh a pretty solid and lean 240lbs. I'm not "huge" by modern day bodybuilder standards, but certainly one of the beefiest guys in my gym. I have 18.5 inch arms to boot.

    Now, to answer your question....I started bodybuilding at the age of 33 and my starting weight was about 195, so I gained a significant amount of lean muscle mass in the course of two years and in my 30's!

    Make no mistake, genetics plays a major role in determining how "huge" one will get au naturel. I've never taken any juice, PH's, etc. However, I am leaning towards trying my very first PH cycle with something like H-Drol to see if I can pack on a few more quality pounds of muscle and increase my strength a tad.

    I eat a very clean, high calorie diet and consume a decent amount of quality/complex carbs and protein. My supps include multi-vitamins, fish oils, flaxseed, creatine AKG, l-arginine AKG, glutamine, glucosamine, and ZMA.

  5. Sounds like you're doing everything right. I have started using PH's somewhat regularly, and I like the results. Some older guys (like DreamWeaver) get good results from herbs and test boosters, and some don't. I feel like all of the above work for me, and I just keep switching around to keep gaining. I personally like to pulse PH's 3 times per week on workout days, and I only use OTC PCT. I am working on shedding the extra fat right now, and will be using P-Mag next. I did feel like Prime worked well also.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by MEPSE View Post
    Sounds like you're doing everything right. I have started using PH's somewhat regularly, and I like the results. Some older guys (like DreamWeaver) get good results from herbs and test boosters, and some don't. I feel like all of the above work for me, and I just keep switching around to keep gaining. I personally like to pulse PH's 3 times per week on workout days, and I only use OTC PCT. I am working on shedding the extra fat right now, and will be using P-Mag next. I did feel like Prime worked well also.
    You mentioned you "pulse" PH's 3 x per week. I am familiar with the "pulse" method and its mixed reviews and so I would be interested to hear how it's working for you???

  7. Check out my log

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    The pictures at the beginning show a tall lanky out of shapy 42 year old man, scroll down and you will see how far I have come in a short period of time and I'm still growing, I am ever conscioud of injury especially as I've come so far and would hate to be derailed by injury.

    That being said nothing is slowing me down I just take every known precaution to man, take a look and if you wanna get big there's no reason why age should be a factor,

    After a life time of being skinny I set out a very detailed plan and its working

  8. Quote Originally Posted by C Dub805 View Post
    You mentioned you "pulse" PH's 3 x per week. I am familiar with the "pulse" method and its mixed reviews and so I would be interested to hear how it's working for you???
    I have liked pulsing because it reduces sides for me, and I feel like my shut down is minimal. I also tend to run longer when pulsing - M-drol for 6 weeks and M1,4ADD for 6 weeks, bridging into D-plex for 3 more weeks (took about 10 weeks off after M-drol before the M1,4ADD). My first PH cycle was Epistane every day for 5 weeks, and I shut down hard. Also, I feel like pulsing works better for older guys. Everyone is different, but I will stick with pulsing from now on.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    and Ageless is 65 now with updated pictures

    that big enough for you?
    66 That guy is one of my idols!

  10. Yes he is one of my trie inspirations

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by MEPSE View Post
    Sounds like you're doing everything right. I have started using PH's somewhat regularly, and I like the results. Some older guys (like DreamWeaver) get good results from herbs and test boosters, and some don't. I feel like all of the above work for me, and I just keep switching around to keep gaining. I personally like to pulse PH's 3 times per week on workout days, and I only use OTC PCT. I am working on shedding the extra fat right now, and will be using P-Mag next. I did feel like Prime worked well also.
    How is the "pulsing" working for you and what compounds do you pulse?
  13. 49 years old first h-drol cycle need help


    just started my cycle monday it looks like this
    75/75/75/75/75/75
    first pill 7am second+third at 3pm
    cycle assist 11 am &9pm pre loaded 10 days prior

    pct
    pct assist
    nolva
    inhibit e
    also have some arimadex
    need help with the proper dosege


    supplements
    gnc sport vita pak
    pre workout dymatize xpand
    post workout wheybolic 60 3 scoops & vitargo 2 scoops
    also just pick up anmial pak traning pak

    any help would be greatly appreciated

  14. Using Herbs can work but it takes a lot of discipline and planning. The advantage is the ability to take then for long periods of time and run them back to back. The only other reasonable alternative would be TRT and that is not easily done here in Canada, or so I hear. From what I have read and seen though TRT would make me a lot bigger and leaner than I do on herbs. My Natural test is still pretty high though so I don't want to depend on synthetic just yet, or maybe never....
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  15. Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    Pretty much, what I want to see is opinions if a 35-40-45-50 year old with a decent foundation can get HUGE with the right training/diet/drugs/supplements.

    I see old guys who are kinda big, and old guys who are ripped and old guys who are in good shape, but can one get huge, I mean really huge at that stage of life?

    Before anybody takes offense, I fall into the above mentioned age categories, and only use the term "old" to distinguish the parameters of my question.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
    id like to sidetrack this if i can ,sorry OP, and ask can an older guy say 45 upwards, build muscle . Im lucky enough to have test replacement therapy- every 11 weeks i get a fresh supply of testosterone which peaks for approx 5 of those weeks at the upper end of the range for a man.Yet despite trying to do everything by the book , building muscle has been and is a hard task.

    So whats the missing link?

    I train 4x a week for approx 1 hour, Cardio is limited to walking and in the gym about 10 min on the bike.

    I take creatine, bcaa, a preworkout -all the usual supplements but it s very hard work.
    So do you reach a point in your life that all you can expect to get from a gym session is to maintain a decent shape,and stay in good health -i just dont know.

  16. Who should you visit and what tests should you ask for to see if TRT is an option?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by seunim View Post
    Who should you visit and what tests should you ask for to see if TRT is an option?
    the first thing your doctor will ask you , is why do you think your testosterone is low. You will have to put up a strong argument to justify treatment imo. So i suggest you do your research via google as to what the symptons are for low testosterone ie outside the normal range and see if you can identify with anyof them.
    If you can convince your doctor then to take a blood test , youve moved forward. However the result of the blood test will tell you if treatment is justified.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    the first thing your doctor will ask you , is why do you think your testosterone is low. You will have to put up a strong argument to justify treatment imo. So i suggest you do your research via google as to what the symptons are for low testosterone ie outside the normal range and see if you can identify with anyof them.
    If you can convince your doctor then to take a blood test , youve moved forward. However the result of the blood test will tell you if treatment is justified.
    Yah I have never really had any of the symptoms except for when I was out of shape. When I am back in the gym and in shape my libido is sky high, (to the point it's actually a little big annoying), I have good energy, I feell strong. This does not mean I am putting on tons of muscle though. There are increases though. I have to admit if administered by a doctor and safe, I would love to get a little boost though. I would have to wait till I stopped competing though. Maybe when I'm in my sixties...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  19. Quote Originally Posted by BIG R View Post
    When did being in the 30s constitute oldness...especially when weight lifting or strength is considered? Arent most of the worlds strongest men in their 30s?

    I would think a better question would involve guys in their 60s at least. Of course some guy, in the words of the OP "with a decent foundation", can get huge if hes in his mid thirties.

    I have friends in their 40s who have never lifted a weight before who a lot of people would consider huge already, just from a lifetime of outside work, lots of food, and great genetics. Id love to get them in the gym.
    Yah I am just starting to notice a difference now that I'm in my fifties... most of it has to do with joints and small injuries. Just ordered 4 bottles of SuperCissus...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  20. When did being in the 30s constitute oldness...especially when weight lifting or strength is considered? Arent most of the worlds strongest men in their 30s?

    I would think a better question would involve guys in their 60s at least. Of course some guy, in the words of the OP "with a decent foundation", can get huge if hes in his mid thirties.

    I have friends in their 40s who have never lifted a weight before who a lot of people would consider huge already, just from a lifetime of outside work, lots of food, and great genetics. Id love to get them in the gym.

    (reposted....I deleted it because i was going to rewrite it, but the esteemed Dreamweaver quoted it so I reposted)

  21. Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    id like to sidetrack this if i can ,sorry OP, and ask can an older guy say 45 upwards, build muscle . Im lucky enough to have test replacement therapy- every 11 weeks i get a fresh supply of testosterone which peaks for approx 5 of those weeks at the upper end of the range for a man.Yet despite trying to do everything by the book , building muscle has been and is a hard task.

    So whats the missing link?

    I train 4x a week for approx 1 hour, Cardio is limited to walking and in the gym about 10 min on the bike.

    I take creatine, bcaa, a preworkout -all the usual supplements but it s very hard work.
    So do you reach a point in your life that all you can expect to get from a gym session is to maintain a decent shape,and stay in good health -i just dont know.
    What you have to think is that there are plenty of 22 year old guys here who have a hard time building muscle too. So its not just about the age, its also about all the rest of the details. So better to dissect it all, diet, training, rest, etc and see where the weak points are. If you want to start a thread to talk about it, or PM me.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    What you have to think is that there are plenty of 22 year old guys here who have a hard time building muscle too. So its not just about the age, its also about all the rest of the details. So better to dissect it all, diet, training, rest, etc and see where the weak points are. If you want to start a thread to talk about it, or PM me.
    Very good point...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  23. I am 39 and my Test levels are low....Total 270 and Free 60.....but my libido is higher than it has ever been and I don't have any trouble gaining muscle. Other than injuries, I cannot tell a difference as fair as gaining muscle and losing body fat. My injuries are what holds me back now and that is related to wear and tear and age. But I honestly look better now than I ever have.

    Seems like your Test levels are not the "be all end all" like people seem to think. Based on my Total T and Free T, I should be having trouble maintaining muscle mass etc. I think that how we feel, sex drive and the ability to gain muscle is way more complicated than it is thought to be by most people. Seems like if my test levels were really what determined all the above, then if my levels got up to 700 or 800 then I would be humping the couch and would look like a gorilla.......there just has to be a lot more to it than just Test levels.

    Sorry I went off on a tangent.......

  24. Good point about Albert Beckles...

    <-------------- Me at 51 and that pic is a year old i am bigger + more cut now newer pics to follow !!!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by MaDmaN View Post
    Good point about Albert Beckles...

    <-------------- Me at 51 and that pic is a year old i am bigger + more cut now newer pics to follow !!!
    nice

    43 and getting bigger stronger not so much faster

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